Elements of deception, collusion, purposeful incompetence, and intricate cover-ups define 9/11. - 9/11 Scholars Forum2024-03-29T12:56:21Zhttp://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/elements-of-deception-collusion-purposeful-incompetence-and?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A69829&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for the video I viewed…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2015-05-05:3488444:Comment:698292015-05-05T06:09:40.184ZLaurence Smithhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LaurenceSmith
<p>Thanks for the video I viewed it on a website that had other articles, etc., by you, There is more than overwhelming evidentiary material to haul this case into a courtroom. I think the best strategy would be to attack at the lowest level of the Bush administration, i.e., his press secretary who whispered in his ear at the school in Florida, and then subpoena the Secret Service personnel with Bush in Florida and find out why protocol was not carried out and who countermanded any orders and…</p>
<p>Thanks for the video I viewed it on a website that had other articles, etc., by you, There is more than overwhelming evidentiary material to haul this case into a courtroom. I think the best strategy would be to attack at the lowest level of the Bush administration, i.e., his press secretary who whispered in his ear at the school in Florida, and then subpoena the Secret Service personnel with Bush in Florida and find out why protocol was not carried out and who countermanded any orders and why. Starting at the lower end of the chain of command will reveal answers involving those higher up until finally it arrives at the White House door of Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and patsy Bush as the active participants, with Zelikow, Chertoff, and Wolfowitz in the roles of active planners and cover-up artists.</p>
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<p>I hope before I close my eyes for the last time on this earth that the govt criminals in 9/11 will be brought to justice, especially the aged Rumsfeld and Cheney. . </p> Theory has seemed to turn int…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2015-05-05:3488444:Comment:697332015-05-05T00:11:14.363ZHenryMassingalehttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/HenryMassingale
<p>Theory has seemed to turn into a event- I will show you a hidden video, that we have re-processed.</p>
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<p>Theory has seemed to turn into a event- I will show you a hidden video, that we have re-processed.</p>
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<p></p> Given that the 9/11 criminals…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2015-05-04:3488444:Comment:700152015-05-04T23:17:42.700ZLaurence Smithhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LaurenceSmith
<p>Given that the 9/11 criminals could have had the planes painted almost anything is possible. The original theory by deep thinkers based on the 'Operation Northwood' scheme that was hatched in 1962 is that a commercial plane was structurally modified and painted and used to fly into the towers via remote control, I have always liked this theory. </p>
<p>Given that the 9/11 criminals could have had the planes painted almost anything is possible. The original theory by deep thinkers based on the 'Operation Northwood' scheme that was hatched in 1962 is that a commercial plane was structurally modified and painted and used to fly into the towers via remote control, I have always liked this theory. </p> thank you,
we are also concer…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2015-05-04:3488444:Comment:698282015-05-04T22:49:02.189ZHenryMassingalehttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/HenryMassingale
<p>thank you,</p>
<p>we are also concerned, all because of one photo, that turns out to be real-</p>
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<p> In a search for the possibility this was found-…</p>
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<p>thank you,</p>
<p>we are also concerned, all because of one photo, that turns out to be real-</p>
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<p> In a search for the possibility this was found-</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1490575804?profile=original"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1490575804?profile=original" width="620"/></a></p> Yes Henry I have seen this vi…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2015-05-04:3488444:Comment:697302015-05-04T21:28:11.859ZLaurence Smithhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LaurenceSmith
<p>Yes Henry I have seen this video and other similar videos. I recently watched a very good 3 hour discussion by Barbara Honegger who I believe has presented the best all around explanation in all areas for 9/11. She is one of the few 9/11 activists who names those she believed were most responsible. Specifically, Wolowitz, Chertoff, Rice, Zelikow, Cheney, with Bush set up to mere provide a cover-up. The 9/11 movement will continue to stall if the major players like Ray Griffin and others…</p>
<p>Yes Henry I have seen this video and other similar videos. I recently watched a very good 3 hour discussion by Barbara Honegger who I believe has presented the best all around explanation in all areas for 9/11. She is one of the few 9/11 activists who names those she believed were most responsible. Specifically, Wolowitz, Chertoff, Rice, Zelikow, Cheney, with Bush set up to mere provide a cover-up. The 9/11 movement will continue to stall if the major players like Ray Griffin and others just concentrate on proving the buildings were taken down by controlled demolition. The public needs a full accounting and picture of the overall scheme that was executed by the 9/11 planners. Just as in a murder case, the public being the jury needs a complete picture of how 9/11 was pulled off which was completely overstaged.</p>
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<p>The planners and executors of 9/11 used far too much deadly explosives than were needed to take the buildings down. The biggest flaw was the hitting of the Pentagon which was a totally implausible scenario by a commercial plane. The 9/11 movement needs a District Attorney or anyone else who can establish standing in a Federal courtroom to file papers on the secret service to explain their inaction in moving Bush immediately, then maybe a domino effect can take place as the case goes up the ladder to the White House. </p> May be this video can help ?…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2015-05-04:3488444:Comment:701232015-05-04T20:33:52.377ZHenryMassingalehttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/HenryMassingale
<p>May be this video can help ?</p>
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</span></p> A New 9/11 video on Netflix '…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2014-02-24:3488444:Comment:658112014-02-24T00:36:25.340ZLaurence Smithhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LaurenceSmith
<p>A New 9/11 video on Netflix ' 9/11 The day that changed the world' was made in 2011 and is just now being released, presenting footage never before available to the public, highlighting the action taken <span style="text-decoration: underline;">18 hours</span> after the bombing of the WTC of the various high ranking govt and military officials. The video was prodiuced by the Smothsonian Institute. Although it has no liberal or conservative agenda it clearly points out the absolute…</p>
<p>A New 9/11 video on Netflix ' 9/11 The day that changed the world' was made in 2011 and is just now being released, presenting footage never before available to the public, highlighting the action taken <span style="text-decoration: underline;">18 hours</span> after the bombing of the WTC of the various high ranking govt and military officials. The video was prodiuced by the Smothsonian Institute. Although it has no liberal or conservative agenda it clearly points out the absolute incompetence of so many high officials.</p>
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<p>Observations presented by this video include the limited following: (1). Over 200 people jumped from the highest floors of Buildings 1 & 2. (2). Despite all the so-called hawks in the Bush administration they all went into strictly survival mode with no pro-active strategy measures taken. (3). After the 2nd missle or plane hit the WTC it should have been obvious that America was under attack and all commercial flights [over 5100) should be immediately grounded. This did not happen until after the 3rd strike at the Pentagon over 30 plus minutes later. The person responsible for this action probably was not part of any conspiracy cabal but was just purely incompetent. (4). After the 2nd attack at the WTC all war game exercises should have been cancelled immediately so Air Traffic Controllers could better sort out the rogue planes in the air. This failure to halt the exercises rests mainly on Cheney or Rumsfeld as part of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">purposefull</span> incompetence.(5). Cheney and Rumsfeld both state that defensive military strategy was terribly <span style="text-decoration: underline;">outdated.</span> The lack of any creative military strategy also falls on Military generals like 4 star wonder General Myers. How do generals get promoted if they are still using and advocating outdated cold war defense strategies. </p>
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<p>(6). 3 high ranking officials who would have a role in taking responsive or defensive actions casually state that they were not able to reach super hawk Donald Rumsfeld for an extended amout of time during the crucial decision making period. (7). Another super hawk, Dick Cheney, tells 4 major media figures that there was no strategy to handle rogue planes hitting any buildings in America, depsite their being at least 4 war games going on at the time of the alleged hijackings. Papa Bush appears to be a sideline player in the 9/11 event given his active connections to various oil interests.</p>
<p>In conclusion, there are more disturbing revelations regarding incompetence, including purposeful and just total ineptitude by major players not part of a cabal. I have accepted the notion that there will <span style="text-decoration: underline;">never</span> be an investigation into 9/11 even for unwitting incomptence as Republicans fear that if any collusion was ever attributed to any high ranking govt official(s) there would be such an outroar that no Republican could even dream about becoming president. The leftists democrats don't need an investigation into 9/11 as they are always in pro-active mode addressing current and future issues, e.g., homosexual marriage, drive through abortions clinics, etc. and have no need to go back to past issues. </p>
<p> </p> With all of the groups that h…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2014-02-18:3488444:Comment:651282014-02-18T01:19:59.135ZLaurence Smithhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LaurenceSmith
<p>With all of the groups that have come out positing that 9/11 was aided by U.S. Govt officials at the highest level, I have wondered why there has been no resultant action having taken place, .e.g, any criminal investigations. I'm given to believe that govt officials and/or those associated with the planning and/or coverup of 9/11 have <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">infiltrated</span></strong> some of the major groups who are asking for a criminal investigation. While…</p>
<p>With all of the groups that have come out positing that 9/11 was aided by U.S. Govt officials at the highest level, I have wondered why there has been no resultant action having taken place, .e.g, any criminal investigations. I'm given to believe that govt officials and/or those associated with the planning and/or coverup of 9/11 have <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">infiltrated</span></strong> some of the major groups who are asking for a criminal investigation. While there are countless videos of speeches made that counter the govt version of 9/11, I know of no action committee or group pursuing legal charges against memers of the cabal involved in 9/11 and/or its cover-up. The treasonous actions actions of the 9/11 govt conspirators will not be held accountable unless they are hauled into a courtroom. They can withstand the arrows being slung around them. We need the arrows to hit their targets. <br/> <br/> <cite>Laurence Smith said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/elements-of-deception-collusion-purposeful-incompetence-and?xg_source=activity#3488444Comment65073"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks for the welcome, Chuck. Pursuant to a previous commentary that I made that suggested a criminal investigation should be made into the actions of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and George Bush during the 9/11 event, I have come by additional information regarding the Shanksville, Pennsylvania so-called crash site of the flight that was supposedly highlighted by a takeover by passengers with one of the passengers giving a 'Lets Roll' command to other male passengers to take control of the plane from supposed terrorist hijackers. </p>
<p>According to an 8 minute video presented by Forbidden Knowledge there may be a logical explanation for the large hole found there that was attributed to one of the so-called hijacked planes crashing there. It seems quite plausible that a witness to the crash event in Shanksville actually saw a Lockheed Martin AGM-158 Jassm (Joint air-surface missle) that was launched by a high overhead fighter jet. This Jassm missle is a shiny all silver missle that is shaped somewhat like a triangle and was designed to penetrate hard surfaces. Moving at a high rate of speed a person seeing it might conculde that it was a small plane. One can only conclude that this missle was used in Shanksville to help sell the story that the last hijacked commerical plane was flying so fast that it totally desintegrated upon hitting the ground, hence no tail wings or other parts were found. </p>
<p>The link to this video is: <a href="http://www.ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.com/page/25967.html" rel="nofollow">Http://www.ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.com/page/25967.html</a> </p>
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</blockquote> Laurence, welcome and thanks…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2014-02-14:3488444:Comment:653032014-02-14T10:25:54.145ZDanny Whitehttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/DannyWhite
<p>Laurence, welcome and thanks for the excellent commentary. The Forbidden Knowledge link suggesting one or possibly two</p>
<p>Jassm missiles makes good sense. There certainly were no jumbo jets landing in that hole. Ms McElwain's explanation of the size and appearance of the object fits with the photos of the AGM-158 and the video of the Jassm missile test. The lack of any plane parts, luggage, and body parts is also explained. The phony display of sadness by Government officials and…</p>
<p>Laurence, welcome and thanks for the excellent commentary. The Forbidden Knowledge link suggesting one or possibly two</p>
<p>Jassm missiles makes good sense. There certainly were no jumbo jets landing in that hole. Ms McElwain's explanation of the size and appearance of the object fits with the photos of the AGM-158 and the video of the Jassm missile test. The lack of any plane parts, luggage, and body parts is also explained. The phony display of sadness by Government officials and their spouses at the memorial was completely disgusting.</p> Thanks for the welcome, Chuck…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2014-02-14:3488444:Comment:650732014-02-14T03:42:02.419ZLaurence Smithhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LaurenceSmith
<p>Thanks for the welcome, Chuck. Pursuant to a previous commentary that I made that suggested a criminal investigation should be made into the actions of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and George Bush during the 9/11 event, I have come by additional information regarding the Shanksville, Pennsylvania so-called crash site of the flight that was supposedly highlighted by a takeover by passengers with one of the passengers giving a 'Lets Roll' command to other male passengers to take control of…</p>
<p>Thanks for the welcome, Chuck. Pursuant to a previous commentary that I made that suggested a criminal investigation should be made into the actions of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and George Bush during the 9/11 event, I have come by additional information regarding the Shanksville, Pennsylvania so-called crash site of the flight that was supposedly highlighted by a takeover by passengers with one of the passengers giving a 'Lets Roll' command to other male passengers to take control of the plane from supposed terrorist hijackers. </p>
<p>According to an 8 minute video presented by Forbidden Knowledge there may be a logical explanation for the large hole found there that was attributed to one of the so-called hijacked planes crashing there. It seems quite plausible that a witness to the crash event in Shanksville actually saw a Lockheed Martin AGM-158 Jassm (Joint air-surface missle) that was launched by a high overhead fighter jet. This Jassm missle is a shiny all silver missle that is shaped somewhat like a triangle and was designed to penetrate hard surfaces. Moving at a high rate of speed a person seeing it might conculde that it was a small plane. One can only conclude that this missle was used in Shanksville to help sell the story that the last hijacked commerical plane was flying so fast that it totally desintegrated upon hitting the ground, hence no tail wings or other parts were found. </p>
<p>The link to this video is: <a href="http://www.ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.com/page/25967.html">Http://www.ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.com/page/25967.html</a> </p>