Evidence of CIA type infiltration of Liberal blogs/web-sites? - 9/11 Scholars Forum2024-03-29T08:00:53Zhttp://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A6665&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHello everybody. I am bill sm…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-09-18:3488444:Comment:75062010-09-18T10:03:18.000Zbill smithhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/billsmith
Hello everybody. I am bill smith and I normally post on the jref 9/11 subforum and have done so for more than a year. I must be a sucker for punishment but I do enjoy pulling their tails...
Hello everybody. I am bill smith and I normally post on the jref 9/11 subforum and have done so for more than a year. I must be a sucker for punishment but I do enjoy pulling their tails... I've always seen problems eve…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-19:3488444:Comment:67102010-07-19T19:00:13.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
I've always seen problems even with the traditional Liberal Democrat. However I'm not ready to diss them at this point. Seems to me that their ideology is at least something the world can live with. The same can't be said for Conservatism which inevitably leads to the neo con fools we see now. Both in governance and the rank &and file republican.<br />
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Even more thoughtful Republicans like the late Barry Goldwater and President Eisenhower will eventually bring the system down. Ike begat Nixon…
I've always seen problems even with the traditional Liberal Democrat. However I'm not ready to diss them at this point. Seems to me that their ideology is at least something the world can live with. The same can't be said for Conservatism which inevitably leads to the neo con fools we see now. Both in governance and the rank &and file republican.<br />
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Even more thoughtful Republicans like the late Barry Goldwater and President Eisenhower will eventually bring the system down. Ike begat Nixon and Goldwater Ronald Reagan. Worse still later we see these give the keys to the kingdom to the Bush's I and II. Like giving the keys to the new car to the ner-do -well alcoholic son. Who in turn wrecks the whole vehicle and blames someone else for it. No accountability.<br />
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I don't expect a lot out of a Democratic Congress but feel a slight comfort that we could be doing a whole hell of a lot worse.With more democrats in places of power we at least slow the steepness downwards on the road to hell.<br />
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Conservatives love to paint all politicians as equally corrupt. They win elections this way. Disenfranchising Moderates. The GOP rank and file, not caring about their obscenely corrupt types like Tom Delay or David Vitter whom have, up till now still received plenty of votes from the so-called "Christian Right". The tactic of painting all politicians as slime actually helps the Right and corporate, war mongering, polluting industry. Low voter turnout is very helpful to the republicans. Their base being like creatures similar to those zombies from "Night Of The Living dead". Clueless fools who mindlessly show up at the polls voting for the worst candidates possible,<br />
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With the low voter turnout the Zombies "win".<br />
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In the meantime I will at least support Obama. Given enough time and awareness the thirty years of the Reagan disaster may be replaced by something better.<br />
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Thanks for the discussion Shawn.<br />
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<cite>Shawn Hamilton said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A6685&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3488444Comment6685"><div>This Democrat/Republican polarization is false in describing societal division anyway, for it wrongly assumes that rich and poor are equal in the United States.<br/> As my hero Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. said, "The two real political parties in America are the Winners and the Losers. The people don't acknowledge this. They claim membership in two imaginary parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, instead."
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He goes on to say that the Democratic and Republican parties are both Winners. Many US citizens are Losers but can't admit it.<br />
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<cite>Lee Cahalan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?xg_source=activity&id=3488444%3ATopic%3A6400&page=2#3488444Comment6683"><div>You know until I ran in D/U I always pooh poohed the concept of "Liberal Socialism". Even after a friend I know lost her chair on the local Democratic Party board just because she didn't oppose school vouchers. School vouchers being a Conservative idea, and not one I agree with, but I don't think my friend should have lost her seat because of only that.<br/><br/>Or to put another way, the typical condemnation of Liberals by the nutcase Right wing comparing Democrats to "Communism" etc. Always seemed absurd.<br/><br/>Now? I'm still reserving judgment but the idea of a "lockstep" Democratic party seems somewhat more plausible. In the hierarchy at least. Not the rank and file.</div>
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You know until I ran in D/U I always pooh poohed the concept of "Liberal Socialism". Even after a friend I know lost her chair on the local Democratic Party board just because she didn't oppose school vouchers. School vouchers being a Conservative idea, and not one I agree with, but I don't think my friend should have lost her seat because of only that.<br />
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Or to put another way, the typical condemnation of Liberals by the nutcase Right wing comparing Democrats to "Communism" etc. Always seemed…
You know until I ran in D/U I always pooh poohed the concept of "Liberal Socialism". Even after a friend I know lost her chair on the local Democratic Party board just because she didn't oppose school vouchers. School vouchers being a Conservative idea, and not one I agree with, but I don't think my friend should have lost her seat because of only that.<br />
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Or to put another way, the typical condemnation of Liberals by the nutcase Right wing comparing Democrats to "Communism" etc. Always seemed absurd.<br />
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Now? I'm still reserving judgment but the idea of a "lockstep" Democratic party seems somewhat more plausible. In the hierarchy at least. Not the rank and file. Guess what? They finally boun…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-18:3488444:Comment:66682010-07-18T00:12:31.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
Guess what? They finally bounced me permanently! Copy of my private message:<br />
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This is bey…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-17:3488444:Comment:66672010-07-17T23:48:41.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
It's now locked.<br />
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This is beyond obscene. I swear that this absolutely must be more than candy ass moderators worried about upsetting traditional Liberals and the status quo. Feels like something deeper. Like when the Huffington Post pulled Jesse Ventura<br />
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Even Cenk Uygur and Rachel Maddow won't touch this third rail.
It's now locked.<br />
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This is beyond obscene. I swear that this absolutely must be more than candy ass moderators worried about upsetting traditional Liberals and the status quo. Feels like something deeper. Like when the Huffington Post pulled Jesse Ventura<br />
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Even Cenk Uygur and Rachel Maddow won't touch this third rail. My loathsome topic is still a…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-17:3488444:Comment:66652010-07-17T22:39:58.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
My loathsome topic is still alive (over at Democratic Underground) for the moment though it could disappear in a nanosecond.<br />
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I just posted it for yours and the forum's (here) amusement. I really don't care what they think about it over at D/U ...<br />
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Possibly this one will last because I arm twisted the moderators right up front. Titled with the words "Suppression of free speech" in it. Traditional Liberals get really upset when accused of censorship matters. In retaliation they just may try and…
My loathsome topic is still alive (over at Democratic Underground) for the moment though it could disappear in a nanosecond.<br />
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I just posted it for yours and the forum's (here) amusement. I really don't care what they think about it over at D/U ...<br />
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Possibly this one will last because I arm twisted the moderators right up front. Titled with the words "Suppression of free speech" in it. Traditional Liberals get really upset when accused of censorship matters. In retaliation they just may try and label me as a redneck or worse.<br />
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I still use D/U as a news source and agree with them most of the time. They just hate my guts lol.<br />
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<cite>Shawn Hamilton said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A6664&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3488444Comment6664"><div>It will be interesting to see what happens... :)<br/> <br/>
<cite>Lee Cahalan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type#3488444Comment6663"><div>Hee hee. Let's see how long Griffin's quotes stay up at Democratic Underground. I'm a true bastard. Just keep hounding their butts 24/7. See here: <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8766213" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_al...</a><br/><br/>Hopefully I have everyone's permission to cut & paste. Yes, I'm "Wiley"<br/><br/>Surprised the powers that be at D/U haven't bounced me permanently.<br/><br/><br/><br/><cite>Shawn Hamilton said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A6660&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3488444Comment6660"><div>The issue of the Left's "gatekeepers" is becoming increasingly relevant to me as a language teacher and reporter. I first got a clue about this years ago when progressive stalwarts like Noam Chomsky, Alexander Cockburn, David Corn, Cornel West and others said the most ridiculous things about the JFK assassination--things you'd expect to hear from people who hadn't spent five minutes looking at the evidence such as, "Oswald acted alone," and, "It doesn't matter who killed JFK." Crap like that. We're seeing a repeat of the JFK assassination in 9-11, and I really resent the Left's contribution to the coverups. Like you suggested, they're supposed to be on our side!<br/><br/><cite>Lee Cahalan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?xg_source=activity#3488444Comment6659"><div>The Griffin memo explains a lot.<br/><br/>Still sets question marks off in my brain when I think of a forum like Democratic Underground throwing all "nasty 9/11 conspiracy" threads to the dungeon. Or locked and deleted. It's not the Huffington Post and I'm not a noted, paid writer!<br/><br/>D/U doesn't return e-mails on the subject either. Scaredy cats...</div>
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</blockquote> Hee hee. Let's see how long G…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-17:3488444:Comment:66632010-07-17T22:10:07.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
Hee hee. Let's see how long Griffin's quotes stay up at Democratic Underground. I'm a true bastard. Just keep hounding their butts 24/7. See here: <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8766213" target="_blank">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8766213</a><br />
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Hopefully I have everyone's permission to cut & paste. Yes, I'm "Wiley"<br />
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Surprised the powers that be at D/U haven't bounced me…
Hee hee. Let's see how long Griffin's quotes stay up at Democratic Underground. I'm a true bastard. Just keep hounding their butts 24/7. See here: <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8766213" target="_blank">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8766213</a><br />
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Hopefully I have everyone's permission to cut & paste. Yes, I'm "Wiley"<br />
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Surprised the powers that be at D/U haven't bounced me permanently.<br />
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<cite>Shawn Hamilton said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A6660&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3488444Comment6660"><div>The issue of the Left's "gatekeepers" is becoming increasingly relevant to me as a language teacher and reporter. I first got a clue about this years ago when progressive stalwarts like Noam Chomsky, Alexander Cockburn, David Corn, Cornel West and others said the most ridiculous things about the JFK assassination--things you'd expect to hear from people who hadn't spent five minutes looking at the evidence such as, "Oswald acted alone," and, "It doesn't matter who killed JFK." Crap like that. We're seeing a repeat of the JFK assassination in 9-11, and I really resent the Left's contribution to the coverups. Like you suggested, they're supposed to be on our side!<br/> <br/>
<cite>Lee Cahalan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?xg_source=activity#3488444Comment6659"><div>The Griffin memo explains a lot.<br/><br/>Still sets question marks off in my brain when I think of a forum like Democratic Underground throwing all "nasty 9/11 conspiracy" threads to the dungeon. Or locked and deleted. It's not the Huffington Post and I'm not a noted, paid writer!<br/><br/>D/U doesn't return e-mails on the subject either. Scaredy cats...</div>
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The Left's ref…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-17:3488444:Comment:66612010-07-17T19:04:53.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
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The Left's refusal to acknowledge clear inconsistencies with the official story and 9/11 almost makes Alex Jones appear reasonable. At least on the one issue of 9/11.<br />
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I too was disappointed with reading the Chomsky denials.
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The Left's refusal to acknowledge clear inconsistencies with the official story and 9/11 almost makes Alex Jones appear reasonable. At least on the one issue of 9/11.<br />
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I too was disappointed with reading the Chomsky denials. The Griffin memo explains a l…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-17:3488444:Comment:66592010-07-17T18:35:21.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
The Griffin memo explains a lot.<br />
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Still sets question marks off in my brain when I think of a forum like Democratic Underground throwing all "nasty 9/11 conspiracy" threads to the dungeon. Or locked and deleted. It's not the Huffington Post and I'm not a noted, paid writer!<br />
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D/U doesn't return e-mails on the subject either. Scaredy cats...
The Griffin memo explains a lot.<br />
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Still sets question marks off in my brain when I think of a forum like Democratic Underground throwing all "nasty 9/11 conspiracy" threads to the dungeon. Or locked and deleted. It's not the Huffington Post and I'm not a noted, paid writer!<br />
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D/U doesn't return e-mails on the subject either. Scaredy cats... Well consider the readership.…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2010-07-17:3488444:Comment:66492010-07-17T00:12:19.000ZLee Cahalanhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/LeeCahalan
Well consider the readership...<br />
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I have a childhood recollection of meeting a man who worked at a distinguished position in Readers Digest, Was head of the "Condensed Books" division. My neighbor's grandfather. Nice guy, generous, well traveled. One of those Yale types. Ungodly wealthy.<br />
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I should have stayed in touch with his grand daughter. Good looking and easy. Like a lot of rich brats...<br />
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(hope she doesn't read this forum "Hi Sheri!")<br />
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Yale seems so much at the helm of the movers and…
Well consider the readership...<br />
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I have a childhood recollection of meeting a man who worked at a distinguished position in Readers Digest, Was head of the "Condensed Books" division. My neighbor's grandfather. Nice guy, generous, well traveled. One of those Yale types. Ungodly wealthy.<br />
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I should have stayed in touch with his grand daughter. Good looking and easy. Like a lot of rich brats...<br />
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(hope she doesn't read this forum "Hi Sheri!")<br />
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Yale seems so much at the helm of the movers and shakers and so-called "intelligence work". If I had some anonymity here I'd tell you more about an in law and former Yale prof. Is some kind of Kissinger protege and running the Bank of Boston or something similar. A Skull & Bones type. Brilliant but ethically challenged. Global Warming denier.<br />
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Back in the late 1960's he had the audacity to tell my father "I like the idea of the world being run by the elite". Dad said he'd agree if he himself was included among the elite. Kind of stopped that conversation in it's tracks.<br />
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<cite>Shawn Hamilton said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/evidence-of-cia-type?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A6645&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3488444Comment6645"><div>That's hilarious--and easily believable. I would expect The Company to have better writers though. :)</div>
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