"The Thermite Gang", the Mormon Connection, the ClearChannel Connection - 9/11 Scholars Forum2024-03-28T09:22:30Zhttp://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A46216&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noStop stalling Chuck. This is…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-18:3488444:Comment:459192012-01-18T22:28:37.016ZMorgan Reynoldshttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/MorganReynolds
<p>Stop stalling Chuck. This is the same tactic Steve Jones employed once or twice on me, who would reply, in effect, go to the library and study up and you'll see I'm right. No Chuck, this tactic is empty. It is unresponsive, evasive and insulting even. Defend the propositions I quoted in which you point to thermite/thermate and possibly mini-nukes as the methods used to destroy the twin towers rather that DEW. I've already stated a half-dozen reasons why your named causes do not…</p>
<p>Stop stalling Chuck. This is the same tactic Steve Jones employed once or twice on me, who would reply, in effect, go to the library and study up and you'll see I'm right. No Chuck, this tactic is empty. It is unresponsive, evasive and insulting even. Defend the propositions I quoted in which you point to thermite/thermate and possibly mini-nukes as the methods used to destroy the twin towers rather that DEW. I've already stated a half-dozen reasons why your named causes do not work.</p>
<p>I'll make it simple for you: just start, if you wish, by copying key passages from your own work. You know, just snippets of key evidence you've uncovered which clearly point to your named non-explosives and explosives that destroyed the towers by largely turning them to dust. You know, lead with your best, your blockbuster stuff. If I've misstated your contention, please state it precisely. Twenty-five words or less will suffice for your thesis if you know what you're talking about.<br/> <br/> <cite>Chuck Boldwyn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A46013&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3488444Comment46013"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><br/>Best thing to do, Morgan, is to check out my research work in light of your credentials & scientific knowledge instead of labeling me with your personalized derogatory terms, check it out sometime within our lifetimes, after which we might pursue an intelligent discussion or debate... Maybe Jim Fetzer would agree to have a debate between me and you, with Judy and her whole crew of DEW groupies, on the "Real Deal" sometime in the near future. But I would advise that you familiarize yourself, at long last, with the details of my vast research, that is, get knowledgeable of your prey, me.....Chuck Boldwyn, career scientist...<br/> I am very knowledgeable of Judy's DEWs Thesis.<br/> <br/> By the way, please name even five, no, even one real scientist who whole-heatedly supports Judy' DEWs Thesis.<br/> If there is more than one, please name them...<br/> I know of none<br/> <br/> Peace to you, and welcome to our 911 site which could use a lot more viewers form the steeple public.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Morgan Reynolds said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A46216&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment46216"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Toth, you're way off base here. The credentials of the messenger don't matter to me, it's about the message, i.e., its truth or falsity. Keen examples: Gerard Holmgren and Rosalee Grable were short on credentials but long on truth, Steven Earl Jones the reverse. <br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Thoth II said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A45918&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment45917"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><span>"I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. "</span></p>
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<p><span>Morgan,</span></p>
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<p><span>I usually don't side with people, but I feel you are way off base here. Chuck does have the credentials and has devoted a long study to this. In my opinion, he is one of the most authoritative voices in 911 truth, and the Vancouver conference will be lucky to have his contribution.</span></p>
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<p><span>I feel the same way about you, by the way, you have been a powerful and intelligent voice in 911 truth forever. </span></p>
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</blockquote> Best thing to do, Morgan, is…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-18:3488444:Comment:460132012-01-18T18:43:02.483ZChuck Boldwynhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/ChuckBoldwyn
<br></br>Best thing to do, Morgan, is to check out my research work in light of your credentials & scientific knowledge instead of labeling me with your personalized derogatory terms, check it out sometime within our lifetimes, after which we might pursue an intelligent discussion or debate...
Maybe Jim Fetzer would agree to have a debate between me and you, with Judy and her whole crew of DEW groupies, on the "Real Deal" sometime in the near future. But I would advise that you familiarize…
<br/>Best thing to do, Morgan, is to check out my research work in light of your credentials & scientific knowledge instead of labeling me with your personalized derogatory terms, check it out sometime within our lifetimes, after which we might pursue an intelligent discussion or debate...
Maybe Jim Fetzer would agree to have a debate between me and you, with Judy and her whole crew of DEW groupies, on the "Real Deal" sometime in the near future. But I would advise that you familiarize yourself, at long last, with the details of my vast research, that is, get knowledgeable of your prey, me.....Chuck Boldwyn, career scientist...<br />
I am very knowledgeable of Judy's DEWs Thesis.<br />
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By the way, please name even five, no, even one real scientist who whole-heatedly supports Judy' DEWs Thesis.<br />
If there is more than one, please name them...<br />
I know of none<br />
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Peace to you, and welcome to our 911 site which could use a lot more viewers form the steeple public.<br />
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<cite>Morgan Reynolds said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A46216&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment46216"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Toth, you're way off base here. The credentials of the messenger don't matter to me, it's about the message, i.e., its truth or falsity. Keen examples: Gerard Holmgren and Rosalee Grable were short on credentials but long on truth, Steven Earl Jones the reverse. <br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Thoth II said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A45918&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment45917"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><span>"I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. "</span></p>
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<p><span>Morgan,</span></p>
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<p><span>I usually don't side with people, but I feel you are way off base here. Chuck does have the credentials and has devoted a long study to this. In my opinion, he is one of the most authoritative voices in 911 truth, and the Vancouver conference will be lucky to have his contribution.</span></p>
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<p><span>I feel the same way about you, by the way, you have been a powerful and intelligent voice in 911 truth forever. </span></p>
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</blockquote> Toth, you're way off base her…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-18:3488444:Comment:462162012-01-18T15:32:40.138ZMorgan Reynoldshttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/MorganReynolds
<p>Toth, you're way off base here. The credentials of the messenger don't matter to me, it's about the message, i.e., its truth or falsity. Keen examples: Gerard Holmgren and Rosalee Grable were short on credentials but long on truth, Steven Earl Jones the reverse. <br></br> <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Thoth II said:…</cite></p>
<p>Toth, you're way off base here. The credentials of the messenger don't matter to me, it's about the message, i.e., its truth or falsity. Keen examples: Gerard Holmgren and Rosalee Grable were short on credentials but long on truth, Steven Earl Jones the reverse. <br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Thoth II said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A45918&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment45917"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><span>"I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. "</span></p>
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<p><span>Morgan,</span></p>
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<p><span>I usually don't side with people, but I feel you are way off base here. Chuck does have the credentials and has devoted a long study to this. In my opinion, he is one of the most authoritative voices in 911 truth, and the Vancouver conference will be lucky to have his contribution.</span></p>
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<p><span>I feel the same way about you, by the way, you have been a powerful and intelligent voice in 911 truth forever. </span></p>
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</blockquote> hello, Morgan, and i am just…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-17:3488444:Comment:462122012-01-17T22:30:29.066Zsandy rosehttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/sandyrose
<p>hello, Morgan, and i am just delighted that you have joined us here.</p>
<p>i dig your happy looking photo with doggy.</p>
<p> just wanted to comment, if i may, that our fearless leader has</p>
<p>graciously allowed non scholars and scholars alike to join here. as</p>
<p>he said in his description of this group, <span class="st">This forum has been created for members of <em>Scholars</em> for <em>9/11</em> Truth and other dedicated students of these terrible events.<br></br></span> i…</p>
<p>hello, Morgan, and i am just delighted that you have joined us here.</p>
<p>i dig your happy looking photo with doggy.</p>
<p> just wanted to comment, if i may, that our fearless leader has</p>
<p>graciously allowed non scholars and scholars alike to join here. as</p>
<p>he said in his description of this group, <span class="st">This forum has been created for members of <em>Scholars</em> for <em>9/11</em> Truth and other dedicated students of these terrible events.<br/></span> i bet it must be sometimes aggravating and annoying for those who</p>
<p>actually ARE scholars, most of us here are more than likely not, and</p>
<p>most here never even bother saying a word.</p>
<p> i for one like to hear what everyone has to say, whether scholar</p>
<p>or 'other dedicated students of these terrible events.'. </p>
<p> it's hard enough to get most of the folks here to say one word,</p>
<p>and we can't all be scholars, you know?</p>
<p> very glad to have you aboard, and sure that we may benefit</p>
<p>from your expertise and knowledge, i hope you will continue on here</p>
<p>and not get too discouraged at how not scholarly some of us is!</p>
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<p> (and for anyone reading this who doesn't already know of it,</p>
<p>Morgan's fine website, as i assuming still exists, since i haven't</p>
<p>visited in a while, is nomoregames.net.)</p>
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<p> please bear with us in spite of our status, there are a bunch</p>
<p>of real dang swell folks here and we all tend to learn together!</p>
<p>we can probably learn a bit from you, and again, glad to have you aboard!!@</p>
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<p> lovies. sandy, non scholar.</p>
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<p><br/><br/><cite>Morgan Reynolds said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A46118&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment46118"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>This is a scholar's forum? Where is the scholarship? What scholars? Eludes me. If it's "not too difficult to prove that Bain Capital committed crimes," then make your criminal charges and prove up each element with evidence. You offer zippo. And "many other corporations who have been operating the same way as Bain Capital for many years"? What the H? "Many others"? "The same way"? What the H way is that? I've got no idea. Name these companies and offer evidence for their perfidy. Bring these charges to the attention of the authorities. </p>
<p>Zero evidence for zero crimes and I'm supposed to swoon with the power of these accusations? Not. Your assertions are a nullity, not even up to the level of propaganda which often is persuasive because well-done. All I see is prejudice: <span id="hotword"><span style="color: #333333; cursor: default;" id="hotword">"an</span> <span style="color: #333333; cursor: default;" id="hotword">unfavorable</span> <span style="color: #333333; cursor: default;" id="hotword">opinion</span> <span id="hotword">or</span> <span style="color: #333333; cursor: default;" id="hotword">feeling</span> <span style="color: #333333; cursor: default;" id="hotword">formed</span> <span id="hotword">beforehand</span> <span id="hotword">or</span> <span style="color: #333333; cursor: default;" id="hotword">without</span> <span style="color: #333333; cursor: default;" id="hotword">knowledge,</span> <span id="hotword">thought,</span> <span id="hotword">or</span></span> <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reason" rel="nofollow">reason</a><span id="hotword">.</span> "</p>
<p>The Max Keiser rant, intended to be humorous I guess, is proof of ...what? Government should kill the last elements of venture capitalism? Mitt Romney? Gimmee a break. Stick to 9/11, you know something about that.</p>
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<p>Quite a broadside against Wall Street, Bain Capital and Venture capital funds in general. Yes, there is lots to be said against Wall Street but the real problem lies in Washington, which outrageously bails out bankrupt firms, especially banks. Ron Paul has it right: the biggest single reform would be to End the Fed. It's the root of the problem. Read his book. Obviously there lots more to do to convert our fascist economy to a free economy. </p>
<p>But your problem with Romney and Bain,…</p>
<p>Quite a broadside against Wall Street, Bain Capital and Venture capital funds in general. Yes, there is lots to be said against Wall Street but the real problem lies in Washington, which outrageously bails out bankrupt firms, especially banks. Ron Paul has it right: the biggest single reform would be to End the Fed. It's the root of the problem. Read his book. Obviously there lots more to do to convert our fascist economy to a free economy. </p>
<p>But your problem with Romney and Bain, and your one-sided portrayal, runs much deeper. Do I detect a whiff of class hatred? Back to economics though, you're upset about what Austrian economist Joseph Schumpeter called the "creative destruction" of capitalism, otherwise known as dynamism. By contrast, "Here today, here forever" would be your motto. If that were true, progress would end and rapid decline begin. Fortunately, new products and production methods still put pressure on older, established products and methods to adapt or die (shutdown really). The idea of a productive system is to please consumers, not producers who should be somewhat uncomfortable and alert to changes. Producers should have to adjust to the "whims" of footloose consumers, the sovereign directors of economic activity, the ultimate arbiters of the success and failure of economic ventures. Consumers are the final authorities in a private enterprise, free-market system about who succeeds and who fails.</p>
<p>Further, your across-the-board condemnation of venture capitalists is short-sighted. For example, to quote from <em>The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics</em> (2008): "Venture capital funds are the economic lifeblood of high-technology companies in industries that are critical to U.S. international competitiveness: computer software, biotechnology, computer engineering, electronics, aerospace, pharmaceuticals, and so forth." </p>
<p>But enough. Some arguments are not worth having, given the participants. This is one of them, especially since we're supposed to discussing 9/11 (I thought). </p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jeannon Kralj said:</cite></p>
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<p>"Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's not a crime. If your actions hurt or harm other people, isn't that generally considered a crime? How did Ken Lay end up in prison, and not any of the current lot? Why did SEC investigate Enron's crash and not Wall Street's? "<br/><br/>Read more: <a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-wall-street-in-one-brief-tale-20120113#ixzz1jgKsMbci" rel="nofollow">http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/everything-you-...</a> </p>
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<p>I think 911 is false flag terrorism and I think Wall Street's financial terrorism are subjects much related.</p>
<p>I may not know what the law is specifically and cannot "prove it up" in a court of law, but many of us have been enlightened by Max Keiser and Matt Taibi about Wall Street's ways. We know greed, lying, cheating, stealing and murdering when we see it.</p>
<p>We see the total corruption of our legal system and our government as well as all of our societal institutions including banking and finance.</p>
<p>You may find all of that perfectly legal and admirable as "venture captialism."</p>
<p>I do not.</p>
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<p>When someone comes in and kills a company and kills the livelihood of many people and puts them out of their homes and on the streets, they have caused serious and deliberate harm to others. I know you think that is perfectly legal and not a crime and should be supported because it at least evidence that we have some "venture capital" still in existence. I do not think it is moral and if it is legal, it should not be. It is a crime.</p>
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<p>Companies are supposed to operate to make a profit and be productive and grow, not be entities to be used for rape and pillage and profit by crooks like Romney.</p>
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<p> Max Keiser worked many years on Wall Street and knows the "ethics" in operation there. That is why he got out and expatriated. I do not personally support Keiser but I do repect his knowledge of finance and markets and the economy. He has helped many of us see what is really going on and people like Keiser and Matt Taibbi are calling it for what it is - "financial terrorism."</p>
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<p>Mormon Paul Drockton has written several articles exposing Romney, however, like you, he thinks Ron Paul is right in supporting Romney's actions with Bain Capital. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneyintown.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneyintown.htm</a></p>
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<p>Romney bankrupted 4 relatively large companies for fun and personal profit. It seems that he really does enjoy firing people. Romney is accused of running "pump and dump" schemes whereby:</p>
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<p>1. Bain Capital takes over a company</p>
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<p>2. Romney drastically cuts payroll (fires employees) to raise company profits and starves production.</p>
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<p>3. Lehman rates the company as a "strong buy" and the stock surges.</p>
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<p>4. Romney heavily leverages the company with debt to sell his and Bain's stock in the company at a ridiculous profit.</p>
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<p>5. <strong>Once Romney and Bain milk the company for all its worth</strong>, the stock price collapses.</p>
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<p>6. Since Romney ran a Hedge Fund, it is more than likely that he and Bain also made a fortune in Put Options on the company's declining stock.</p>
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<p>In one example:</p>
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<p>"KB Toys was purchased and taken private in 2000 by the leveraged buyout firm of Bain Capital for $305 million, Bain announced the purchase on Dec. 8th, 2000. <b>Only $18 million of the purchase money was cash, the rest was borrowed against the assets of the company.</b> <b>Sixteen months after the buyout, Bain Capital paid itself $85 million in dividends in early 2002.</b> Two years later, due to... its enormous debt, on January 14, 2004, K·B Toys filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and closed 365 stores.</p>
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<p>K·B closed 156 stores on November 8, 2007. The Gordon Brothers Group handled the liquidation of these stores. On February 9, 2009, K·B closed the remaining stores following the second bankruptcy filing in four years. In addition, K·B Toys' website was closed down.</p>
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<p>The K·B Toys brand and related intangible assets were sold by Streambank LLC to Toys R Us on September 4, 2009 for a reported $2.1 Million." (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KB_Toys" rel="nofollow">Source</a>)</p>
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<p>Romney and Bain cost America 16,000 jobs when they took down KB Toys. "</p>
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<p>This is your loving legal "venture capitalism" .</p>
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<p>Other Drockton articles...</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneylooter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneylooter.html</a></b></p>
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<p><b>Mitt Romney does Ampad</b></p>
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<p><b>"</b></p>
<div><font class="ws14">Once again, "Mitt the Pirate" follows the same old pattern used by the Robber Barons of old.</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">1. Invest a minimum amount of cash ($5 million).</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">2. Leverage the purchase by borrowing against company assets and future revenues.</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">3. Massive job cuts to boost profits and swell the balance sheet before taking the company public.</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">4. Pump and then dump the stock on investors that actually believe the ratings agencies that, in my opinion, are in Bain and Romney's pocket.</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">Here is the history of Ampad Stock:</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14"><b>July 2, 1996: $15.13 - IPO Price</b></font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14"><b>Jan. 27, 1997: $26.00 - Peak</b></font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14"><b>Sep 16, 1997: $13.13 - Stock loses 42% of its value</b></font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14"><b>Nov 1, 1999: 35 cents - Ampad looks to sell assets to reduce debt</b></font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14"><b>Jan 14, 2000: 15 cents - Ampad forced into bankruptcy</b></font> <font class="ws14">(Ibid)</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">In other words, after Bain and Romney sold their stock holdings, making an estimated 45 million dollars, The stock plummets and, more than likely, Romney's Hedge Funds make millions more by shorting the stock (buying Put Options) on the collapsing stock.</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">The make millions when the stock goes up, and they make millions as the stock plummets. "</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">Mormon Paul Drockton again on Romney</font></div>
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<div><a href="http://www.moneyteachers.org/RomneyCIA.html" rel="nofollow"><font class="ws14">http://www.moneyteachers.org/RomneyCIA.html</font></a></div>
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<div><div><font class="ws16" color="#000080"><b>Paul Drockton: Is Mitt Romney a CIA/Mossad Asset?</b></font></div>
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<div><font class="ws16" color="#000080"><b><a href="http://www.moneyteachers.org/Mormonmafia.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneyteachers.org/Mormonmafia.html</a></b></font></div>
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<div><div><font class="ws16" color="#000080"><b>Paul Drockton: Did Romney's Bain Plunder Howard Hughes?</b></font></div>
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<p><a href="http://www.nationalmemo.com/article/bain-subsidies-romney" rel="nofollow"><b>http://www.nationalmemo.com/article/bain-subsidies-romney</b></a></p>
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<h2><a href="http://www.nationalmemo.com/article/bain-subsidies-romney" rel="nofollow">Bain Capitalism: Subsidies, Tax Breaks -- And Bust-Outs?</a></h2>
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<p><b>More on Romney's and Bain Capitals lovely "legal" ways.</b></p>
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<p><b>As far as other companies,</b></p>
<p><b>NIA (National Inflation Association) has been cited by Peter Schiff as a "pump and dump" scheme.</b></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>He states this is an old scam and many other companies have run pump and dump schemes. I cannot name all of the companies, but I believe he, like Keiser and Taibbi, is knowledgeable on the subject.</b></p>
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</blockquote> "I see nothing but bluster, c…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-17:3488444:Comment:459172012-01-17T21:59:22.768ZThoth IIhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/ThothII
<p><span>"I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. "</span></p>
<p><span><br></br></span></p>
<p><span>Morgan,</span></p>
<p><span><br></br></span></p>
<p><span>I usually don't side with people, but I feel you…</span></p>
<p><span>"I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. "</span></p>
<p><span><br/></span></p>
<p><span>Morgan,</span></p>
<p><span><br/></span></p>
<p><span>I usually don't side with people, but I feel you are way off base here. Chuck does have the credentials and has devoted a long study to this. In my opinion, he is one of the most authoritative voices in 911 truth, and the Vancouver conference will be lucky to have his contribution.</span></p>
<p><span><br/></span></p>
<p><span>I feel the same way about you, by the way, you have been a powerful and intelligent voice in 911 truth forever. </span></p> Morgan Reynolds said:
Chuck…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-17:3488444:Comment:460122012-01-17T21:45:00.362ZMorgan Reynoldshttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/MorganReynolds
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Morgan Reynolds said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/comment/show?id=3488444%3AComment%3A46011&xn_out=json&firstPage=1&lastPage=1&xg_token=2cb6de2cfb0de65de2fbe21265f7704f&_=1326836135774#3488444Comment46011"><div><p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students:…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Morgan Reynolds said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/comment/show?id=3488444%3AComment%3A46011&xn_out=json&firstPage=1&lastPage=1&xg_token=2cb6de2cfb0de65de2fbe21265f7704f&_=1326836135774#3488444Comment46011"><div><p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. </p>
<p>I'm not going to spend a couple of days studying your vast contributions to the science of 9/11, I just want your defense of your bottomline assertions about thermite/thermate and nukes: "I consider my original research work to be most convincing as do many other people concerning nano Thermate/Thermite and Explosives, maybe even nuclear mini bombs...I have shown that nanoThermate & High Explosives with Shape Charges involved and possibly mini nukes can explain all of her 43 points that she points out that need to get an adequate explanation." I do not buy your assertions for a minute. I've assisted in their explosion in a recent, short article with links to my previous work with Dr. Wood: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://nomoregames.net/2012/01/14/collapse-of-the-thermite-thesis/" target="_blank">http://nomoregames.net/2012/01/14/collapse-of-the-thermite-thesis/</a> . And what evidence about the WTC did Dr. Wood get wrong? I'm still waiting to hear on that one.<br/> <br/> <cite>Chuck Boldwyn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A46007&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment46007"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><strong>Morgan,</strong></p>
<p><strong>Some day you should check out my long, long ongoing Scholarship by viewing my Scholastic Quality PowerPoints with the Impossible Collapses nicely explained in terms of the most elementary Physics, Chemistry, Engineering, & Math possible, so people without elementary science educations or less that adequate scientific and math backgrounds may be able to understand them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Also, my interviews with Jim Fetzer were highly Scholastic, more than 10 of them (see "Real Deal" podcast archives, search: Chuck Boldwyn), with the relative science and math explained in very great detail against a visual background of my PowerPoint Posters or Tutorials that were discussed all during each of the shows. The interviews can serve as tutorials for persons of limited but yet wanting,scientific backgrounds, where the viewer can learn immense amounts of science & math if that person truly applies themselves to understanding the presented materials.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If Judy's DEW dreamworld hypothesis turns out to be true and the correct one, then I am going to, indeed, be the Ass who bragged about demolitions, thermate, thermite, shape charges, cutter charges, and mini nukes and claimed that I had provably correct explanations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If I am "right", then, indeed I sould be alerting everyone so they are aware of a theory that can explain all of Judy's 43 Anomolies, yes, all of them, but you need to review my talk shows and PowerPoints to even see what I am talking about and why I have been long trying to educate the world, even hard ore scientists, about some of my groung-breaking explanations for the Impossible TT Collapses.</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Please check out my Scholastic contributions to this, maybe, not so super-duper Scholastic 911 Truth site, but we do have some Scholars here, maybe not so scientific, but they constructively contribute in other ways by extensive internet research and investigation. There are about a dozen to maybe 20 contributers to the material contained within this site. Many members are not active contributers but may only view the material on this site. Many of the main contributers have welcomed you and indeed you are welcome...</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Please check out my research sometime within my lifetime or your lifetime so that you might see the feebleness of the DEW & Hutchison Field Effects as a most improbable explanation of the Impossible Collapses.</strong></p>
<p><strong>To validy criticize my work, you need to validly understand it by looking at it in detail, all aspects, then you should learn why Judy's explanations of her excellent data are ludicrous and with out thoughtful scientific merit, in my opinion, especially when there is available my much more simple explanation that can be found to be easily believeable and quantitatively verifiable by anyone with an adequate background or anyone who can pick up the background by lisening to and observing my tutorial presentation, all of them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Evidently Jim Fetzer, respects my research and tutorial work and explanations enough to invite me to present my novel or unique ideas and explanations that could turn out to be correct, or at least very interesting to know about.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If I am arrogant, as you imply via Shakespeare, then I am arogant about finding out the truth my own way and just trying to pass it along for the easily misguided lay persons who believe the Governments propaganda or believe some other fairy tale interpretation of what happened, to bring down the Twin Towers, etc.....</strong></p>
<p><strong>I consider myself to have a lot of self confidence, after all, I am an expert in these elementary scientific principles that apply to the destruction of the Complex. Also, I taught these elementary topics for a living for many years.</strong></p>
<p><strong>My education, training, and career experience in dealing with these scientific topics is as good or better than the vast majority of scientists out there as most scientists are not versitile in all of the required areas of science needed to explain all or near all of the results and be in the ballpark of the correct provable answer for the WTC Complex demolishments or demolitions using various explosive and incendiary and shape charge devices.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Please review my work so we can, perhaps, maybe, have an intelligent conversation about Dr. Judy's Interpretive work and 911 book.</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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</blockquote> Chuck,
I see nothing but blus…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-17:3488444:Comment:460112012-01-17T21:35:46.505ZMorgan Reynoldshttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/MorganReynolds
<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. </p>
<p>I'm not going to spend a couple of days studying your vast contributions to the science of 9/11, I just want your defense of your…</p>
<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I see nothing but bluster, credentialism and appeal to authority in your statement. No specifics, period. Years ago my Ph.D. seminar economics professors (U. Wisconsin) told the Ph.D. students: "If you can't explain what your dissertation is about in 25 words or less, you don't know what you're talking about." Still a sound advice. </p>
<p>I'm not going to spend a couple of days studying your vast contributions to the science of 9/11, I just want your defense of your bottomline assertions about thermite/thermate and nukes: "I consider my original research work to be most convincing as do many other people concerning nano Thermate/Thermite and Explosives, maybe even nuclear mini bombs...I have shown that nanoThermate & High Explosives with Shape Charges involved and possibly mini nukes can explain all of her 43 points that she points out that need to get an adequate explanation." I do not buy your assertions for a minute. I've assisted in their explosion in a recent, short article with links to my previous work with Dr. Wood: <a href="http://nomoregames.net/2012/01/14/collapse-of-the-thermite-thesis/" target="_blank">http://nomoregames.net/2012/01/14/collapse-of-the-thermite-thesis/</a> . And what evidence about the WTC did Dr. Wood get wrong? I'm still waiting to hear on that one.<br/> <br/> <cite>Chuck Boldwyn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://911scholars.ning.com/forum/topics/the-thermite-gang-the-mormon-connection-the-clearchannel?commentId=3488444%3AComment%3A46007&xg_source=activity#3488444Comment46007"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><strong>Morgan,</strong></p>
<p><strong>Some day you should check out my long, long ongoing Scholarship by viewing my Scholastic Quality PowerPoints with the Impossible Collapses nicely explained in terms of the most elementary Physics, Chemistry, Engineering, & Math possible, so people without elementary science educations or less that adequate scientific and math backgrounds may be able to understand them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Also, my interviews with Jim Fetzer were highly Scholastic, more than 10 of them (see "Real Deal" podcast archives, search: Chuck Boldwyn), with the relative science and math explained in very great detail against a visual background of my PowerPoint Posters or Tutorials that were discussed all during each of the shows. The interviews can serve as tutorials for persons of limited but yet wanting,scientific backgrounds, where the viewer can learn immense amounts of science & math if that person truly applies themselves to understanding the presented materials.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If Judy's DEW dreamworld hypothesis turns out to be true and the correct one, then I am going to, indeed, be the Ass who bragged about demolitions, thermate, thermite, shape charges, cutter charges, and mini nukes and claimed that I had provably correct explanations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If I am "right", then, indeed I sould be alerting everyone so they are aware of a theory that can explain all of Judy's 43 Anomolies, yes, all of them, but you need to review my talk shows and PowerPoints to even see what I am talking about and why I have been long trying to educate the world, even hard ore scientists, about some of my groung-breaking explanations for the Impossible TT Collapses.</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Please check out my Scholastic contributions to this, maybe, not so super-duper Scholastic 911 Truth site, but we do have some Scholars here, maybe not so scientific, but they constructively contribute in other ways by extensive internet research and investigation. There are about a dozen to maybe 20 contributers to the material contained within this site. Many members are not active contributers but may only view the material on this site. Many of the main contributers have welcomed you and indeed you are welcome...</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Please check out my research sometime within my lifetime or your lifetime so that you might see the feebleness of the DEW & Hutchison Field Effects as a most improbable explanation of the Impossible Collapses.</strong></p>
<p><strong>To validy criticize my work, you need to validly understand it by looking at it in detail, all aspects, then you should learn why Judy's explanations of her excellent data are ludicrous and with out thoughtful scientific merit, in my opinion, especially when there is available my much more simple explanation that can be found to be easily believeable and quantitatively verifiable by anyone with an adequate background or anyone who can pick up the background by lisening to and observing my tutorial presentation, all of them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Evidently Jim Fetzer, respects my research and tutorial work and explanations enough to invite me to present my novel or unique ideas and explanations that could turn out to be correct, or at least very interesting to know about.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If I am arrogant, as you imply via Shakespeare, then I am arogant about finding out the truth my own way and just trying to pass it along for the easily misguided lay persons who believe the Governments propaganda or believe some other fairy tale interpretation of what happened, to bring down the Twin Towers, etc.....</strong></p>
<p><strong>I consider myself to have a lot of self confidence, after all, I am an expert in these elementary scientific principles that apply to the destruction of the Complex. Also, I taught these elementary topics for a living for many years.</strong></p>
<p><strong>My education, training, and career experience in dealing with these scientific topics is as good or better than the vast majority of scientists out there as most scientists are not versitile in all of the required areas of science needed to explain all or near all of the results and be in the ballpark of the correct provable answer for the WTC Complex demolishments or demolitions using various explosive and incendiary and shape charge devices.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Please review my work so we can, perhaps, maybe, have an intelligent conversation about Dr. Judy's Interpretive work and 911 book.</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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</blockquote> Morgan,
Some day you should c…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-17:3488444:Comment:460072012-01-17T04:15:06.677ZChuck Boldwynhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/ChuckBoldwyn
<p><strong>Morgan,</strong></p>
<p><strong>Some day you should check out my long, long ongoing Scholarship by viewing my Scholastic Quality PowerPoints with the Impossible Collapses nicely explained in terms of the most elementary Physics, Chemistry, Engineering, & Math possible, so people without elementary science educations or less that adequate scientific and math backgrounds may be able to understand them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Also, my interviews with Jim Fetzer were highly…</strong></p>
<p><strong>Morgan,</strong></p>
<p><strong>Some day you should check out my long, long ongoing Scholarship by viewing my Scholastic Quality PowerPoints with the Impossible Collapses nicely explained in terms of the most elementary Physics, Chemistry, Engineering, & Math possible, so people without elementary science educations or less that adequate scientific and math backgrounds may be able to understand them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Also, my interviews with Jim Fetzer were highly Scholastic, more than 10 of them (see "Real Deal" podcast archives, search: Chuck Boldwyn), with the relative science and math explained in very great detail against a visual background of my PowerPoint Posters or Tutorials that were discussed all during each of the shows. The interviews can serve as tutorials for persons of limited but yet wanting,scientific backgrounds, where the viewer can learn immense amounts of science & math if that person truly applies themselves to understanding the presented materials.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If Judy's DEW dreamworld hypothesis turns out to be true and the correct one, then I am going to, indeed, be the Ass who bragged about demolitions, thermate, thermite, shape charges, cutter charges, and mini nukes and claimed that I had provably correct explanations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If I am "right", then, indeed I sould be alerting everyone so they are aware of a theory that can explain all of Judy's 43 Anomolies, yes, all of them, but you need to review my talk shows and PowerPoints to even see what I am talking about and why I have been long trying to educate the world, even hard ore scientists, about some of my groung-breaking explanations for the Impossible TT Collapses.</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Please check out my Scholastic contributions to this, maybe, not so super-duper Scholastic 911 Truth site, but we do have some Scholars here, maybe not so scientific, but they constructively contribute in other ways by extensive internet research and investigation. There are about a dozen to maybe 20 contributers to the material contained within this site. Many members are not active contributers but may only view the material on this site. Many of the main contributers have welcomed you and indeed you are welcome...</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Please check out my research sometime within my lifetime or your lifetime so that you might see the feebleness of the DEW & Hutchison Field Effects as a most improbable explanation of the Impossible Collapses.</strong></p>
<p><strong>To validy criticize my work, you need to validly understand it by looking at it in detail, all aspects, then you should learn why Judy's explanations of her excellent data are ludicrous and with out thoughtful scientific merit, in my opinion, especially when there is available my much more simple explanation that can be found to be easily believeable and quantitatively verifiable by anyone with an adequate background or anyone who can pick up the background by lisening to and observing my tutorial presentation, all of them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Evidently Jim Fetzer, respects my research and tutorial work and explanations enough to invite me to present my novel or unique ideas and explanations that could turn out to be correct, or at least very interesting to know about.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If I am arrogant, as you imply via Shakespeare, then I am arogant about finding out the truth my own way and just trying to pass it along for the easily misguided lay persons who believe the Governments propaganda or believe some other fairy tale interpretation of what happened, to bring down the Twin Towers, etc.....</strong></p>
<p><strong>I consider myself to have a lot of self confidence, after all, I am an expert in these elementary scientific principles that apply to the destruction of the Complex. Also, I taught these elementary topics for a living for many years.</strong></p>
<p><strong>My education, training, and career experience in dealing with these scientific topics is as good or better than the vast majority of scientists out there as most scientists are not versitile in all of the required areas of science needed to explain all or near all of the results and be in the ballpark of the correct provable answer for the WTC Complex demolishments or demolitions using various explosive and incendiary and shape charge devices.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Please review my work so we can, perhaps, maybe, have an intelligent conversation about Dr. Judy's Interpretive work and 911 book.</strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
"Just because something i…tag:911scholars.ning.com,2012-01-17:3488444:Comment:461202012-01-17T03:33:22.921ZJeannon Kraljhttp://911scholars.ning.com/profile/JeannonKralj
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<p> </p>
<p>"Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's not a crime. If your actions hurt or harm other people, isn't that generally considered a crime? How did Ken Lay end up in prison, and not any of the current lot? Why did SEC investigate Enron's crash and not Wall Street's? "<br></br><br></br>Read more:…</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>"Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's not a crime. If your actions hurt or harm other people, isn't that generally considered a crime? How did Ken Lay end up in prison, and not any of the current lot? Why did SEC investigate Enron's crash and not Wall Street's? "<br/><br/>Read more: <a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-wall-street-in-one-brief-tale-20120113#ixzz1jgKsMbci" rel="nofollow">http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/everything-you-...</a> </p>
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<p>I think 911 is false flag terrorism and I think Wall Street's financial terrorism are subjects much related.</p>
<p>I may not know what the law is specifically and cannot "prove it up" in a court of law, but many of us have been enlightened by Max Keiser and Matt Taibi about Wall Street's ways. We know greed, lying, cheating, stealing and murdering when we see it.</p>
<p>We see the total corruption of our legal system and our government as well as all of our societal institutions including banking and finance.</p>
<p>You may find all of that perfectly legal and admirable as "venture captialism."</p>
<p>I do not.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>When someone comes in and kills a company and kills the livelihood of many people and puts them out of their homes and on the streets, they have caused serious and deliberate harm to others. I know you think that is perfectly legal and not a crime and should be supported because it at least evidence that we have some "venture capital" still in existence. I do not think it is moral and if it is legal, it should not be. It is a crime.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Companies are supposed to operate to make a profit and be productive and grow, not be entities to be used for rape and pillage and profit by crooks like Romney.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> Max Keiser worked many years on Wall Street and knows the "ethics" in operation there. That is why he got out and expatriated. I do not personally support Keiser but I do repect his knowledge of finance and markets and the economy. He has helped many of us see what is really going on and people like Keiser and Matt Taibbi are calling it for what it is - "financial terrorism."</p>
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<p>Mormon Paul Drockton has written several articles exposing Romney, however, like you, he thinks Ron Paul is right in supporting Romney's actions with Bain Capital. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneyintown.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneyintown.htm</a></p>
<p>"</p>
<p>Romney bankrupted 4 relatively large companies for fun and personal profit. It seems that he really does enjoy firing people. Romney is accused of running "pump and dump" schemes whereby:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>1. Bain Capital takes over a company</p>
<p> </p>
<p>2. Romney drastically cuts payroll (fires employees) to raise company profits and starves production.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>3. Lehman rates the company as a "strong buy" and the stock surges.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>4. Romney heavily leverages the company with debt to sell his and Bain's stock in the company at a ridiculous profit.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>5. <strong>Once Romney and Bain milk the company for all its worth</strong>, the stock price collapses.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>6. Since Romney ran a Hedge Fund, it is more than likely that he and Bain also made a fortune in Put Options on the company's declining stock.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In one example:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>"KB Toys was purchased and taken private in 2000 by the leveraged buyout firm of Bain Capital for $305 million, Bain announced the purchase on Dec. 8th, 2000. <b>Only $18 million of the purchase money was cash, the rest was borrowed against the assets of the company.</b> <b>Sixteen months after the buyout, Bain Capital paid itself $85 million in dividends in early 2002.</b> Two years later, due to... its enormous debt, on January 14, 2004, K·B Toys filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and closed 365 stores.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>K·B closed 156 stores on November 8, 2007. The Gordon Brothers Group handled the liquidation of these stores. On February 9, 2009, K·B closed the remaining stores following the second bankruptcy filing in four years. In addition, K·B Toys' website was closed down.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The K·B Toys brand and related intangible assets were sold by Streambank LLC to Toys R Us on September 4, 2009 for a reported $2.1 Million." (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KB_Toys" rel="nofollow">Source</a>)</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Romney and Bain cost America 16,000 jobs when they took down KB Toys. "</p>
<p> </p>
<p>This is your loving legal "venture capitalism" .</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Other Drockton articles...</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneylooter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneyteachers.org/Romneylooter.html</a></b></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>Mitt Romney does Ampad</b></p>
<p> </p>
<p><b>"</b></p>
<div><font class="ws14">Once again, "Mitt the Pirate" follows the same old pattern used by the Robber Barons of old.</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">1. Invest a minimum amount of cash ($5 million).</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">2. Leverage the purchase by borrowing against company assets and future revenues.</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">3. Massive job cuts to boost profits and swell the balance sheet before taking the company public.</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">4. Pump and then dump the stock on investors that actually believe the ratings agencies that, in my opinion, are in Bain and Romney's pocket.</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">Here is the history of Ampad Stock:</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b>July 2, 1996: $15.13 - IPO Price</b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b><br/></b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b>Jan. 27, 1997: $26.00 - Peak</b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b><br/></b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b>Sep 16, 1997: $13.13 - Stock loses 42% of its value</b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b><br/></b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b>Nov 1, 1999: 35 cents - Ampad looks to sell assets to reduce debt</b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b><br/></b></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><b>Jan 14, 2000: 15 cents - Ampad forced into bankruptcy</b></font> <font class="ws14">(Ibid)</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">In other words, after Bain and Romney sold their stock holdings, making an estimated 45 million dollars, The stock plummets and, more than likely, Romney's Hedge Funds make millions more by shorting the stock (buying Put Options) on the collapsing stock.</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14"><br/></font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">The make millions when the stock goes up, and they make millions as the stock plummets. "</font></div>
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<div><font class="ws14">__________</font></div>
<div><font class="ws14">Mormon Paul Drockton again on Romney</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><a href="http://www.moneyteachers.org/RomneyCIA.html" rel="nofollow"><font class="ws14">http://www.moneyteachers.org/RomneyCIA.html</font></a></div>
<div> </div>
<div><div><font class="ws16" color="#000080"><b>Paul Drockton: Is Mitt Romney a CIA/Mossad Asset?</b></font></div>
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<h2><a href="http://www.nationalmemo.com/article/bain-subsidies-romney" rel="nofollow">Bain Capitalism: Subsidies, Tax Breaks -- And Bust-Outs?</a></h2>
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<p><b>More on Romney's and Bain Capitals lovely "legal" ways.</b></p>
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<p><b>As far as other companies,</b></p>
<p><b>NIA (National Inflation Association) has been cited by Peter Schiff as a "pump and dump" scheme.</b></p>
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<p><b>He states this is an old scam and many other companies have run pump and dump schemes. I cannot name all of the companies, but I believe he, like Keiser and Taibbi, is knowledgeable on the subject.</b></p>
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