Sandy, I think you just did! Thanks for your excellent work.
Keep me posted on your views about how things are going.
I have great confidence in you and Shallel. Many thanks!
Great to hear from you Sandy. I saved your address. Not sure I know how to delete part of your comment so hope you can do that. I'll email you and give you my email address that way.
Hope the drought did not mess up your agricultural efforts this year and that you will have a decent harvent.
I will look in to what you think is the whatzit. Sounds interesting. I can't seem to click on a ning video here and even some still photos posted without crashing out of my lousy Internet Explorer browser but will try.
Glad to learn I was not the only one offended by "Morgie's" behavior. I do not know but I imagine he kind of dropped out of the group soon after joining. I only read his first response to Chuck Boldwyn and was appalled at some of the things he wrote. He called Chuck or maybe his ideas ass...something -- can't remember the full word. I have never seen that way of communicating anywhere on this forum. That was a first.
Then he lit in to me and my welcome note to him. I read about the first paragraph and was appalled again. His tone was I am a Ph.d. economist so only I can comment on finance / capital issues and that I was way out of my depth in telling about corporate raider Romney. He told me I should stick to 9-11.
I managed to jot off a response and told him off as best I could without losing my composure. I dropped out of the forum at that point and never read anything else ont he forum though I am still a member.
Dr. Morgan has done the best work up until recently with Dr. Fetzer and his co-authors' work on the no-planes issue. But Dr. Morgan seems to just parrot whatever Judy Wood says on aspects of 9-11 WTC causes. For example, he says the rubble pile of Bldg. 7 is really just mud, which is what Wood says but never bothers to support. I have seen several pictures of the WTC 7 rubble pile and it does not look like mud - it looks like the aftermath of a regular controlled demolition. I have seen firemen spraying lots of water on the rubble pile and the pile itself looks quite a bit like broken up "pancakes."
Those dachsie pictures are not my pups. Wish they were. I just found a cute picture to use as my avatar since I am a big dachshund lover, though I do not even own a dog right now.
What with the draught last summer and my failed tomato experiment, I am just growing two tomato plants in pots this year and am not going exert much effort with them.
Good luck with your garden. It sounds like it will be really great.
I became quite vexed ( P O 'd) with Dr. Morgan Reynolds' first couple on comments when he joined the forum. He is a person I always admired so I was disappointed in his agressive, name calling, style.
You are kind to inquire of me. I would say you too are an important part of the right kind of tone to this forum.
We are watching the total meltdown of our country.
I think it is wonderful that you are involved in farming and growing and did not know that before. I do not know but I kind of have the idea that you live in one of the great midwest states like maybe Missouri or Tennessee or Kentucky that have the great soil for farming.
I have always loved growing things and was always amazed at the great soil and vegetables my grandparents near Sallisaw Oklahoma were able to grow. I live in central Texas and the soil is horrible, mainly rocks. It is so difficult and labor intensive to grow vegetables here. I tried valliantly last year to grow some tomatoes and used the non-hybrid heirloom seeds and all. I almost ruined (further) my back babying those tomato plants. Would you believe in October, I finally saw some good sized green tomatoes and was hoping for them to turn red. Well, there was a light freeze one night and all my greed tomatoes were ruined.
Yeah, very interesting. Eventually, it will be found that a agent for E. Rothschild
was behind the 911 set up. O. Bin Laden, a fall guy, was not any part of it. Even Bush the puppet did NOT know who exactly was behind it. I have not said much, for a reason, and if I live long enough to finish my research and publish a book... it will be clear to all then.
Jim recently invited me to speak in Vancouver. I don't think I'll accept. Personal reasons. But Jim and others have produced volumes of respectable work and numerous valid questions. I'm pleased to be able to post here.
I won't be a stranger. I've studied this event as much as anyone else and have published almost a dozen books analyzing the data. From a forensic financial investigation to a physics and chemistry analysis of the USGS dust samples. I joined specifically to provide some new data, or at least some data that's not been discussed in public.
Thank you! Glad to be aboard, I am looking forward to the connection and all I can learn and maybe contribute. I see your picture has a large excavator in it are you a heavy equipment operator? I am a retired operator.
I am doing well, thanks! I feel good having published what I have about planes and passengers! It is my contribution to the dialogue about 9/11. I give readers a new way to see the errors of the official theory by presenting them with a new story. The interview with Killtown is really good because he has so much insight!
Thanks for the friend request. I'm still figuring out the best way to make "my contribution". It will probably be a few days before I visit this site again, having gotten caught up in the Occupy Wall Street thing, which seems to be aimed at gaining freedom from the same enemy. Will the public cast off illusion when they find out for certain that 9/11 was scripted, or will they respond to the similar and related truth that the current financial "crisis" is part of the same manipulation? Ultimately, whatever persuades the shift in mass opinion is good enough, as long as the shift is toward truth.
At 12:58pm on September 26, 2011, Just David said…
Hello, Sandy. Thank you for the warm welcome. I've noticed that you have made it your business to screen this network for disinformers and deadweight. I hope you'll consider me neither. To make your task easier, I'll let you know some stuff about myself. I am a full-time father of three girls. I have no connections or expertise regarding the events of 9/11, and therefore expect to maintain a fairly silent presence here. As a brown man, I experienced the cultural shift of the last decade in a very painful way, moving suddenly from Missouri to California with no job prospects lined up. I have a profound interest in empowering my children to recognize the currents and crosscurrents in public discourse. I believe informed democracy might just be a valid system if the information contains a high enough proportion of truth. I came to understand much of the 9/11/01 story by way of the Architect/Engineer group. Currently, I'm more interested in the who and why than the how. This network has the best discussion I have found on the Zionist connection, and is also an interesting place to study currently employed infojamming strategies. I hope I can find a niche that allows me to be of use in disseminating the truth that so many have worked so hard to reveal. Perhaps you could suggest members or threads that I would find of interest.
Peace, Just
At 8:33pm on September 24, 2011, Dennis Cimino said…
Hi Sandy,
have you ever read any of Gerard Holmgren's work? he had done extensive research and found that large numbers of the passengers on these planes were people who had died years earlier and their identities stolen and re-used by the government. People have tried to debunk his work but so far it still holds up to the litmus test. Also, the grand death toll has been significantly padded upwards, as the Twin Towers had gotten pretty evacuated and in fact had not fully filled up when the attacks on them by the mossad had begun. In today's world it's easy to find a photo of a face, stick a name on it from any number of people in the SSDI database, and then call it 'live' or 'victim' and get away with that. The Dept of DE FENS did the alleged identification of the dead for all of these casualties, and
of course are highly suspected of fraud at every turn because nothing DoD has said to us so far about the day has been remotely close to TRUTH or REALITY. Anyway, I wanted to jump in and thank you for welcoming me aboard. I hope we can relight the fires here and get this ship underway again. Jeannon said he felt it had pretty much 'died' and of course, he's probably pretty correct.
Speaking to Tina thru this post, a few years ago I had an alleged friend of one of the air passengers write an e-mail to me saying she was offended that I had been citing Holmgren's information online, and best I could say to her was that without personal knowledge of each and every casualty, they were all suspected or not confirmed. As you might imagine those who actually did have family members who knew they died, also suspected that the government was padding the death toll upwards on purpose. Not that real dead bodies weren't recovered at the WTC, which they absolutely were, but so far we have airplanes with ZERO of the hijackers on the manifests, ten years out. How can this be? It's about as ludicrous as one of the hijackers 'passports' being found on the street in NYC that day, when the guy was on a domestic flight and truly didn't need to be carrying that with him in the first place. I know I wouldn't be toting mine on a domestic flight, for fear of it being pilfered or lost in luggage that gets stolen by baggage handlers.
anyway, glad you are going thru the roster and looking for dead wood. Maybe it will compel the forum members to talk again. Who knows?
thanks,
d. cimino
At 4:03pm on September 24, 2011, Dennis Cimino said…
in addition, if you haven't downloaded and read; "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" you might want to do that. Then you'll understand why Amy Goodblow and Jon Liebowitz (Stewart) and Noam Chumpsky as well as a whole list of other 9/11 gatekeepers and deniers, are the way they are. They don't deflect blame about Israeli involvement in the mass murders of that day as a pet project, they do it because they are loyal always to Israel (not Judaism, that's a different gig altogether which most of them don't actually practice anyway). That's why Gage is the protector of Israel, and to some extent, theologians like David Ray Griffin who are dyed in the wool christianity believers, are happy to set up Israel per the Book of Revelations, which means; "If Israel doesn't fall exactly on cue to enable Armageddon to happen..we must protect it until the proper moment in time comes.." kind of crap. I'm 'atheist' and ditched religion a long long time ago, having figured it out that it was a control game more than anything else. 'ZEITGEIST' (the original version) is an exemplary video to watch and get a handle on that aspect of what these organized religions are. The only one that seems benevolent is the one called Pastafarianism, or Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Anyway, these guys who protect Israel at all costs are no more jewish than you or I are, truly, and zionism doesn't arbitrarily equate to 'jew' strictly because most zionists are in the 97 or so percentile of the alleged world's 'jewish' population who have adopted the religion but were never ever blood descendants of sephardic jews in any way. Another good piece of work to download is called; "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Koestler, who with his wife, was murdered by mossad agents for publishing this work many years ago. It proves these guys are Khazarians strictly, wholly non-sephardic, and with no more claims to Palestine than the average person of native american heritage is. Adopting a religion and then laying claim to turf over that adopted religion as most of these non-sephardic khazarian gypsies have done, is on it's face 'fraud' and it goes to another term called 'absurd' if you take it that far. This is what these guys who protect Israel are.
Cass Sunstein, another khazarian 'fake' jew is the same thing, as are to the last man, the signatories to the P.N.A.C. manifesto of global domination by use of military prowess and strength. I wonder if any of those assholes ever read what happened to the Roman Empire? Maybe their ultimate plan, per the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, is to destroy everything per those protocols and reduce the world to a zionist controlled charnel house of pepetual war and war profiteering by their masters, the Bauer/Rothschilds clan from Frankfurt? Anyway, take a look at those two documents, the PROTOCOLS and THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE and then you'll have a much more comprehensive handle on who and what we are all dealing with here. It's a death cult.
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Keep me posted on your views about how things are going.
I have great confidence in you and Shallel. Many thanks!
Great to hear from you Sandy. I saved your address. Not sure I know how to delete part of your comment so hope you can do that. I'll email you and give you my email address that way.
Hope the drought did not mess up your agricultural efforts this year and that you will have a decent harvent.
I will look in to what you think is the whatzit. Sounds interesting. I can't seem to click on a ning video here and even some still photos posted without crashing out of my lousy Internet Explorer browser but will try.
Take care
Jeannon
CORRECTION 2 -- oh, forget it. my entire first post did not even post anyway.
Correction, my entire last post here was referring to the NORTH WTC Tower.
Sandy,
Glad to learn I was not the only one offended by "Morgie's" behavior. I do not know but I imagine he kind of dropped out of the group soon after joining. I only read his first response to Chuck Boldwyn and was appalled at some of the things he wrote. He called Chuck or maybe his ideas ass...something -- can't remember the full word. I have never seen that way of communicating anywhere on this forum. That was a first.
Then he lit in to me and my welcome note to him. I read about the first paragraph and was appalled again. His tone was I am a Ph.d. economist so only I can comment on finance / capital issues and that I was way out of my depth in telling about corporate raider Romney. He told me I should stick to 9-11.
I managed to jot off a response and told him off as best I could without losing my composure. I dropped out of the forum at that point and never read anything else ont he forum though I am still a member.
Dr. Morgan has done the best work up until recently with Dr. Fetzer and his co-authors' work on the no-planes issue. But Dr. Morgan seems to just parrot whatever Judy Wood says on aspects of 9-11 WTC causes. For example, he says the rubble pile of Bldg. 7 is really just mud, which is what Wood says but never bothers to support. I have seen several pictures of the WTC 7 rubble pile and it does not look like mud - it looks like the aftermath of a regular controlled demolition. I have seen firemen spraying lots of water on the rubble pile and the pile itself looks quite a bit like broken up "pancakes."
Those dachsie pictures are not my pups. Wish they were. I just found a cute picture to use as my avatar since I am a big dachshund lover, though I do not even own a dog right now.
What with the draught last summer and my failed tomato experiment, I am just growing two tomato plants in pots this year and am not going exert much effort with them.
Good luck with your garden. It sounds like it will be really great.
Hi Sandy,
I became quite vexed ( P O 'd) with Dr. Morgan Reynolds' first couple on comments when he joined the forum. He is a person I always admired so I was disappointed in his agressive, name calling, style.
You are kind to inquire of me. I would say you too are an important part of the right kind of tone to this forum.
We are watching the total meltdown of our country.
I think it is wonderful that you are involved in farming and growing and did not know that before. I do not know but I kind of have the idea that you live in one of the great midwest states like maybe Missouri or Tennessee or Kentucky that have the great soil for farming.
I have always loved growing things and was always amazed at the great soil and vegetables my grandparents near Sallisaw Oklahoma were able to grow. I live in central Texas and the soil is horrible, mainly rocks. It is so difficult and labor intensive to grow vegetables here. I tried valliantly last year to grow some tomatoes and used the non-hybrid heirloom seeds and all. I almost ruined (further) my back babying those tomato plants. Would you believe in October, I finally saw some good sized green tomatoes and was hoping for them to turn red. Well, there was a light freeze one night and all my greed tomatoes were ruined.
Take care and God bless you.
Jeannon
Yeah, very interesting. Eventually, it will be found that a agent for E. Rothschild
was behind the 911 set up. O. Bin Laden, a fall guy, was not any part of it. Even Bush the puppet did NOT know who exactly was behind it. I have not said much, for a reason, and if I live long enough to finish my research and publish a book... it will be clear to all then.
Oh, that's a nuclear detonation, not an edible mushroom. :)
Jim recently invited me to speak in Vancouver. I don't think I'll accept. Personal reasons. But Jim and others have produced volumes of respectable work and numerous valid questions. I'm pleased to be able to post here.
I won't be a stranger. I've studied this event as much as anyone else and have published almost a dozen books analyzing the data. From a forensic financial investigation to a physics and chemistry analysis of the USGS dust samples. I joined specifically to provide some new data, or at least some data that's not been discussed in public.
Peace
Sandy Rose,
Thank you! Glad to be aboard, I am looking forward to the connection and all I can learn and maybe contribute. I see your picture has a large excavator in it are you a heavy equipment operator? I am a retired operator.
Hi Sandy,
I am doing well, thanks! I feel good having published what I have about planes and passengers! It is my contribution to the dialogue about 9/11. I give readers a new way to see the errors of the official theory by presenting them with a new story. The interview with Killtown is really good because he has so much insight!
Take care,
Dean
Love the Vietnam protest pictures. Those are cool. All your pictures are good.
Hello, Sandy. Thank you for the warm welcome. I've noticed that you have made it your business to screen this network for disinformers and deadweight. I hope you'll consider me neither. To make your task easier, I'll let you know some stuff about myself. I am a full-time father of three girls. I have no connections or expertise regarding the events of 9/11, and therefore expect to maintain a fairly silent presence here. As a brown man, I experienced the cultural shift of the last decade in a very painful way, moving suddenly from Missouri to California with no job prospects lined up. I have a profound interest in empowering my children to recognize the currents and crosscurrents in public discourse. I believe informed democracy might just be a valid system if the information contains a high enough proportion of truth. I came to understand much of the 9/11/01 story by way of the Architect/Engineer group. Currently, I'm more interested in the who and why than the how. This network has the best discussion I have found on the Zionist connection, and is also an interesting place to study currently employed infojamming strategies. I hope I can find a niche that allows me to be of use in disseminating the truth that so many have worked so hard to reveal. Perhaps you could suggest members or threads that I would find of interest.
Peace, Just
Hi Sandy,
have you ever read any of Gerard Holmgren's work? he had done extensive research and found that large numbers of the passengers on these planes were people who had died years earlier and their identities stolen and re-used by the government. People have tried to debunk his work but so far it still holds up to the litmus test. Also, the grand death toll has been significantly padded upwards, as the Twin Towers had gotten pretty evacuated and in fact had not fully filled up when the attacks on them by the mossad had begun. In today's world it's easy to find a photo of a face, stick a name on it from any number of people in the SSDI database, and then call it 'live' or 'victim' and get away with that. The Dept of DE FENS did the alleged identification of the dead for all of these casualties, and
of course are highly suspected of fraud at every turn because nothing DoD has said to us so far about the day has been remotely close to TRUTH or REALITY. Anyway, I wanted to jump in and thank you for welcoming me aboard. I hope we can relight the fires here and get this ship underway again. Jeannon said he felt it had pretty much 'died' and of course, he's probably pretty correct.
Speaking to Tina thru this post, a few years ago I had an alleged friend of one of the air passengers write an e-mail to me saying she was offended that I had been citing Holmgren's information online, and best I could say to her was that without personal knowledge of each and every casualty, they were all suspected or not confirmed. As you might imagine those who actually did have family members who knew they died, also suspected that the government was padding the death toll upwards on purpose. Not that real dead bodies weren't recovered at the WTC, which they absolutely were, but so far we have airplanes with ZERO of the hijackers on the manifests, ten years out. How can this be? It's about as ludicrous as one of the hijackers 'passports' being found on the street in NYC that day, when the guy was on a domestic flight and truly didn't need to be carrying that with him in the first place. I know I wouldn't be toting mine on a domestic flight, for fear of it being pilfered or lost in luggage that gets stolen by baggage handlers.
anyway, glad you are going thru the roster and looking for dead wood. Maybe it will compel the forum members to talk again. Who knows?
thanks,
d. cimino
in addition, if you haven't downloaded and read; "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" you might want to do that. Then you'll understand why Amy Goodblow and Jon Liebowitz (Stewart) and Noam Chumpsky as well as a whole list of other 9/11 gatekeepers and deniers, are the way they are. They don't deflect blame about Israeli involvement in the mass murders of that day as a pet project, they do it because they are loyal always to Israel (not Judaism, that's a different gig altogether which most of them don't actually practice anyway). That's why Gage is the protector of Israel, and to some extent, theologians like David Ray Griffin who are dyed in the wool christianity believers, are happy to set up Israel per the Book of Revelations, which means; "If Israel doesn't fall exactly on cue to enable Armageddon to happen..we must protect it until the proper moment in time comes.." kind of crap. I'm 'atheist' and ditched religion a long long time ago, having figured it out that it was a control game more than anything else. 'ZEITGEIST' (the original version) is an exemplary video to watch and get a handle on that aspect of what these organized religions are. The only one that seems benevolent is the one called Pastafarianism, or Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Anyway, these guys who protect Israel at all costs are no more jewish than you or I are, truly, and zionism doesn't arbitrarily equate to 'jew' strictly because most zionists are in the 97 or so percentile of the alleged world's 'jewish' population who have adopted the religion but were never ever blood descendants of sephardic jews in any way. Another good piece of work to download is called; "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Koestler, who with his wife, was murdered by mossad agents for publishing this work many years ago. It proves these guys are Khazarians strictly, wholly non-sephardic, and with no more claims to Palestine than the average person of native american heritage is. Adopting a religion and then laying claim to turf over that adopted religion as most of these non-sephardic khazarian gypsies have done, is on it's face 'fraud' and it goes to another term called 'absurd' if you take it that far. This is what these guys who protect Israel are.
Cass Sunstein, another khazarian 'fake' jew is the same thing, as are to the last man, the signatories to the P.N.A.C. manifesto of global domination by use of military prowess and strength. I wonder if any of those assholes ever read what happened to the Roman Empire? Maybe their ultimate plan, per the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, is to destroy everything per those protocols and reduce the world to a zionist controlled charnel house of pepetual war and war profiteering by their masters, the Bauer/Rothschilds clan from Frankfurt? Anyway, take a look at those two documents, the PROTOCOLS and THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE and then you'll have a much more comprehensive handle on who and what we are all dealing with here. It's a death cult.
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