9/11 Scholars Forum

Exposing Falsehoods and Revealing Truths

Welcome!

The purpose of this forum is to expose falsehoods and reveal truths about the events of 9/11.
As I see it, the primary areas of research intended to be the focus of this forum include these:

(A) General Overview and the Nature of Conspiracy Theories;

Recommended reading:

"Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK"
by James H. Fetzer;

"Was America Attacked by Muslim's on 9/11?
by David Ray Griffin; and,

"There is No Evidence Muslims Hijacked Planes on 9/11"
by Elias Davidsson

(B) What Happen to the WTC and especially the Twin Towers?

Recommended reading:

Visit the drjudywood.com web site and study her photographs;

"The 9/11 WTC Twin Towers Could Not Possibly Have Collapsed"
by Charles Boldwynn;

"WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?"
by C.B. Brooklyn

(B1) Was video fakery used to deceive the American public?

Recommended Reading:

Visit the killtown and Ace Baker web sites and study the videos;

"Mounting Evidence of Video Fakery on 9/11"
by James H. Fetzer (and follow its links)

"New Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11"
by James H. Fetzer (and follow its links)

(B2) Were Planes Even Used on 9/11?

Recommended Reading:

"Some Holes in the Plane Stories"
by Morgan Reynolds and Rick Rajter

"On Simulators, Video Fakery, and Planes/No Planes"
by James H. Fetzer

"Fetzer-Barrett-Legge Exchange"
by Jame H. Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, and Frank Legge

(C) What Happened at the Pentagon?

Recommended Reading:

"Norman Mineta and Richard Clarke Contradict the 9/11 Commission"
by Adam Lietke

"The Latest on the Pentagon"
by James Hanson

"What Didn't Happen at the Pentagon"
by James H. Fetzer

(D) Who Was Responsible for 9/11?

Recommended Reading:

"Was America Attacked by Muslim's on 9/11?
by David Ray Griffin; and,

"Could US Leaders Have Authorized 9/11 without Knowing the Details?"
by Elias Davidsson

"9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda"
by James H. Fetzer

(E) Misinformation and Disinformation

Recommended Reading:

"Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK"
by James H. Fetzer

"9/11 Conspiracy Theories"
by the Anti-Defamation League

"The Manipulation of the 9/11 Community"
by James H. Fetzer

There will be more, especially about (D) and (E). But these are some of the basics. that
every member of this forum should be familiar with. There is a lot of my stuff, not because
it is mine but because it deals with the complex and controversial aspects of 9/11, which
are the only ones worth discussion and debate. I do not think I am right about all of this,
by the way. I can learn from you by showing me where I'm wrong.

A word of appreciate to Michael Morrissey, who introduced us to ning.com. This is not
an anti-Morrissey forum but a 9/11 Truth forum. Michael's excess of zeal in anti-anti-
Semitism and unwillingness to study mathematical treatments of these issues created
an obstacle to the pursuit of 9/11 research. He was, in my view, committing several
elementary fallacies, including the ad hominem and the genetic fallacies.

Having spent 35 year teaching logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, I did my
best to oppose them, but Michael is a man of strong opinions and would not budge. I
therefore founded this forum as an alternative, where members are welcome to belong
to both. I should note that, in my view, the charge of anti-Semitism has become a club
to abuse those seeking the truth. We must undeerstand how it works.

As a fallible human being, I have no doubt that I will commit my own mistakes managing
and moderating this forum. I therefore encourage any of you who have comments,
suggestions, or criticism to contact me, either via the forum's own mechanisms for
communication or by sending me an email directly to my email address, which is
jfetzer@d.umn.edu. I believe the 911aletheia.ning.com forum has already shown
what we can do!

Jim

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The blog postsare currenty three pages long, so you have to go to "Previous Post" to find it. This was only one part of a rather long thread.
You might want to check out "Is 9/11 research 'anti-Semitic'?" elsewhere on this forum. Indeed, you might want to send it to Gregory Hoover and tell him that I would be glad to support him any way I can. Please send me his email address.

Anthony E. Wicher said:
On visibility911.com Michael Wolsey has a new interview with Gregory Hoover, an legal professional and activist in the Orlando chapter of We Are Change, who is suing Glen Beck for defamation of character. The complaint will note that - on October 22, 2007 - Beck suggested that those identifying themselves as associated with the 9/11 truth movement are “dangerous” “anarchists” who deny the Holocaust, and are “the kind of group that Timothy McVeigh would come from.”

The suit will also note that during Beck’s June 10th broadcast Beck linked the murder of the Washington D.C. holocaust museum guard by 88-year-old Nazi James W. von Brunn with “9/11 truthers.”

Woolsey suggests that suing people for defamation who falsely claim that 9/11 activists are terrorists could be a good way to stand up to these bullies. I am inclined to agree. Hoover's effort should be supported. It is better than being intimidated. I also like the Alex Jones interview of Hoover at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs_YGKOhGAY. Jones and Hoover both forthrightly take on the anti-Semite smear.
William P. Homans here, another DBS longtime regular poster. I am not a 9/11/01 xcholar, so I doubt i will post much here. But I want to at least invite any and all former DBS posters to correspond with me regarding what we shall do now in response to this unconscionable, out-of-the-blue destruction of books and books worth of posts-- I certainly had a book's worth of posts that did not include cut-and-pastes.

Something needs to be done, maybe bidding for or buying the domain name "debatebothsides.com" and reactivating it. I've got a bit of cash to spend toward such an end, even if I am personally incapable of administrating the site. I will also offer mysef as a moderator if no one else wants to perform said function, though I would prefer at least dewey and madresfield to continue in their moderator functions. I'm not so sure about Lib, at present. It was only a week before this disatrous disappearing act that Lib invited a bunch of 9/11 debunkers from another website, and they succeeded in ruffling the feathers of most everyone on the DBS Forum, including myself, with their smug and self-congratulatory attitude.

I am

William P. Homans,
Clarksdale, Mississippi
watermelonslim@sbcglobal.net

Jay Esbe said:
Greetings Mr. Fetzer

I wasn't sure exactly where to post, having just joined and the lay-out of this forum being so different to me.

I spent years at www.debatebothsides.com, and also published about 50 articles at opednews.com before being banned. Interestingly enough, a search for one of my articles, turned up a link on scholars for truth, that you had recommended to your readers. Thank you:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jay_esbe_060713_in_defense_...

I was challenging the moderator of debatebothsides.com to debate me one on one repeatedly over the years, and met with only his pretending not to see the challenge, dismissing it, but finally after about the seventh time I issued it, he simply said he would not debate me because I was "deranged". He then proceeded to invite dozens and dozens of supporters of the official version of 9-11, from the JREF forum, to shout me down, and heap too many posts at me to keep up with. When I challenged one of the presumed top posters from JREF there directly, the next thing that happened was that the entire domain, debatebothsides.com, appears to now have been deactivated.

Perhaps it's a glitch and down for maintenance, or perhaps I was such a pain in the butt to the pro-official version moderator and owner of the domains, they just decided to pull the plug. I guess time will tell.

Anyway, I'm not a physicist, nor a degreed engineer; just a citizen, and amateur collector of available evidence for the events of 9-11.

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