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Alex Jones Show Interview with Dr. Steve Pieczenik


Alex Jones Show
Interview with
Dr. Steve Pieczenik

16 September 2012
From the second part of hour 1
to the first part of hour 2



Insider: U.S. Ambassador Killing an Inside Job!(VIDEO) (34:56), published on Sep 16, 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel, caption: "Critically acclaimed author and former State Department official Steve Pieczenik talks with Alex about the unfolding geopolitical situation in the middle East and who will start world war three." MP3 download of the full Sunday 16 Sept. show available here. The MP3 interview, which has some segments that are edited out on the online video version above, runs from 33:24 to 1:15:59.



Editor's Note. This transcription provided by William B. Fox, Publisher, America First Books, as a public service. It is reasonably but not totally accurate and was originally intended for false flag-related research purposes.


 Background music and voiceover: . . . Defending the republic from enemies, foreign and domestic, it's Alex Jones. [33:24]
Alex Jones: 
All right, we have only got him a little bit into the next hour, so I am going to try to give him the floor, but have him get right into it in a language all of us can easily understand. Dr. Steve Pieczenik, M.D., PhD., is an American psychiatrist, former State Department official, author, publisher. He co-wrote a lot of Tom Clancy's books, had a lot of his books turned into big films. He is a critically acclaimed author of psychopolitical thrillers and co-creator of the best-selling Tom Clancy Op-Center and Tom Clancy's Net Force paperbacks. Trained in psychiatry at Harvard University and international relations at MIT, his novels are based on over twenty years. He was a colonel in black ops, wrote the book on psychological warfare for the State Department, then adopted by the CIA, helped overthrow governments, assassinations. He won't get into it, but you can look him up if you like to. Very serious person we have got on the line. Member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He told me on air when he was on about a month and a half ago, the interviews are there, they are posted at Infowars.com, just look up the last interview. He said, "Yes, I just confronted Dempsey, got in his face, and said ..." -- that's the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- and then it came out in the news later actually that [Gen. Martin] Dempsey had been confronted. They didn't say it was Pieczenik at a Council on Foreign Relations meeting. Then Dempsey came out and said "The U.S. won't be behind the Iran attack. We don't want the blame." Well, it doesn't matter, we are going to be sucked into it. So just amazing inside info. He is not supposed to talk about what goes on inside the meetings of the Council on Foreign Relations, but we have only got him again for three segments. We are going to get him back on later in the week because they are gearing up for a giant Iran strike. Huge carrier task force groups, British build-up. Twenty nations plus have their -- twenty five nations are converging on the Strait of Hormuz. You have got the killing of the U.S. ambassador in Benghazi. I have talked to a lot of my sources, and they all say, including Pieczenik, "October surprise" basically to "Carterize" Obama. And by the way, Pieczenik worked for Carter, George Bush senior, and others, so he is bipartisan in his "service" to the country. But here to break this down for us, the point we are at geopolitically right now is Dr. Steve Pieczenik -- StevePieczenik.com is his web site if you want to find out about his best-selling books. Good to have you here with us Doc. I am going to try to shut up and give you the floor because we don't have a lot of time, but please break down where we are right now. I mean, I know you were against Obama. You exposed the Bin Laden thing, so it is not like you are for him to expose that this is meant to be blamed on him, this killing, but clearly the media is trying to deep six Obama. What is behind this geopolitically?
Dr. Pieczenik: What is behind this geopolitically is the extension of what you were brave enough, and your audience is brave enough to understand. This is all an extension of the 9/11 disinformation and false flag episode. It continued into the issue of the CIA and the confrontation between the CIA and our military and the President of the United States continuing on with covert activity and trying to reposition themselves in the Middle East for our military under General Petraeus and under other generals who are trying to pull us out of the Middle East. What is happening now is we have the overview of a Shiite power. The Iranians fighting the Sunnis with Saudi Arabia, but in the middle is Israel continuously playing with all of the players, including Saudi Arabia and particularly the diaspora Jews and the Jews of the United States as a way of putting pressure on Obama, as a way of putting pressure on General Dempsey, and General Petraeus to say that we want a red line in order to be able to attack Iran. And the answer is repeatedly, even by General Dempsey, the answer is "No. We will not give you a red line." Gen. Petraeus said, "Not only will we not give you a red line, but we want you to know under no circumstances -- "; and I do not [unintelligible] General Petraeues, I am a great admirer of his, I know what he is doing. Is that he has repeatedly stated as I had, that from a geopolitical point of view, Israel is a strategic liability and has been a strategic liability for over twenty years. Since 1968 we have had no need for Israel other than the fact that it covered us under the Soviet Union on the eastern, southern, and northern flank. For the first time since 1948 geopolitically Israel is confronted by Hezbollah, a proxy for Iran. By Hamas and its proxies on the eastern bank of Jordan, and on the south by the Islamic Brotherhood or Al Qaeda. All of which they were part and parcel of. Israel is not innocent of any activity, and contrary to Bibi Netanyahu's speech today, to CNN where he wished everybody a Happy New Year [of the Jewish Calendar], I in return wish Bibi Netanyahu and the Israelis a Happy New Year, and wish that he would first begin to tell the truth. That the involvement of Israel was in 9/11. Over 134 Mossad operatives were picked up 9/11. The FBI picked them up, debriefed them, they were clearly involved with the Pakistani ISI and Saudi Arabian intelligence. Then we get to the old issue of Osama Bin Laden, which Obama said incorrectly and lied to the public that Osama Bin Laden was killed by SEAL Team 6. Admiral McRaven had lied repeatedly. Unfortunately he is a decent Admiral, but for whatever reason he repeatedly insisted on saying SEAL Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden when the fact that on your radio show ten years ago I said that he was already dead. The Navy SEAL Team 6 will be disciplined by General Petraeus and others in the Special Forces. So what this means in effect is that we had an ambassador who was a very honorable man working in the State Department under a very good Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who has been doing an excellent job with keeping everything quiet, alongside a lot of diplomats including Mark Grossman and others, and a President who has tried to maintain his foreign [policy], contained it in a very effective way. They have been undermined by the following people who once again came out of 9/11, your friends and mine, the neocon chickenhawks. Paul Wolfowitz, once again hiding behind Mitt Romney. Elliott Abrams, hiding behind Mitt Romney. Chertoff, the head of Homeland Security who now heads up the Chertoff Group, which is nothing more than a cover for the CIA and FBI run by Charles Allen, a former CIA operative, all hiding behind Mitt Romney who himself has no idea of what he is talking about on foreign policy. So you have a presidential candidate who can't utter even the right words, with an entire team composed of Bob Zoellick, Roger Ailes, and Murdoch, he has no idea that the most important enemy he says is Russia. No, Russia is not our most important enemy. We are a super power as Colin Powell has said repeatedly, "Cool it, Mitt Romney and get your facts straight." Mitt Romney is being run by a guy named Don Fentner [spelling?], a protégé of the neocon vultures, Paul WolfowitzRichard Perle, and once again what we have is a fight between the neocon Jews, Israel on their side, and the fact that we have an intelligence service that is split under General Petraeus, trying to maintain peace and stability in the Middle East, a State Department that is trying to maintain peace and stability, and a situation that has been provoked through agitation propaganda through local Libyans as well as foreigners, foreigners meaning mercenaries and others concerned with agitation propaganda, in order to destabilize Libya and to particularly assassinate our ambassador. Why this particular ambassador? I think it is very important for your audience to understand who Christopher Stevens was. He was considered, and a key word here is an "Arabist." It is a very rare word to use in the description of an outstanding foreign service officer. An Arabist was a term that was used by the neo-cons, the Israelis, and others who did not like experts who were specially trained in Arabic studies, spoke Arabic, were sensitive to the Arab culture, were trained specifically in what was considered the Protestant college developed in the 1800's by famous missionaries on our part. This was all Presbyterian missionaries, which eventually became the Lebanese, Beirut University of Lebanon. Which subsequently great men like Mr. Curr [spelling?] and others were trained in, an Arabist whom I have worked with on the only peace treaty that has ever existed was part of Christopher Stevens --
Jones: Well stay there Doc, we have got to go to break. Come back and explain it in layman's terms here. I know that you are talking to the intelligence community, but I mean obviously you are not a fan of Obama either. But you told me, you are saying Israeli intelligence with Saudi intel is who killed the ambassador. This is pretty big news, stay there. [Break begins at 42:49. End of break at: 47:29]
Jones: That's right, an empire of corrupt criminals that work together who want to destroy liberty and freedom worldwide. It is real simple. You are for freedom or for tyranny. I stand with liberty. Now Dr. Pieczenik won't brag about himself, but over the years interviewing him now for about eleven years or ten years, I have looked him up, and you come across him. He was the main psychiatrist or psych warfare guy that Jimmy Carter had in the Camp David accords with Anwar Sadat. Actually got him to do the deal by actually really talking to him. So he knows what he is talking about here. So what they are saying here is this ambassador -- well, I mean, it is simple. You want to get a war going, you kill the ambassador, you get your Jihadis that are in there to start blowing stuff up, and then you blame Obama for it. Now let's be clear. I don't like Obama, I don't like Mitt Romney. And I really don't like Obama on his anti-gun and all the rest of it. I mean Dr. Pieczenik has worked for George Bush senior andBrent Scowcroft, so he is not political as well. He is just giving you what he believes is really going on. I mean, do you really believe anybody, that a bunch of Jihadis went through all those Special Forces guys they had guarding the ambassador. Do you really think there were only four security guards there? I mean, Al Qaeda "bragged" that "We know your security." So this is amazing. So just tell me what you told me privately in that 45 minute conversation we had yesterday, Dr. Pieczenik. I mean, tell people where we are standing right now. I mean, how this ties into Iran, where this is going. 
Dr. Pieczenik: What we are is at the brink of war that is being precipitated by two major countries. That is Israel, particularly Bibi Netanyahu, who knows his country is failing economically, socially, politically. He is isolated by the United States. General Petraeus two years ago said correctly "It is a liability." He already immediately tried to take action to draw us back in by mobilizing the Jewish committees like AIPAC, Zionists, the neocons and Mitt Romney and all the men behind him. 
Jones: By the way, you are Jewish Dr. Pieczenik. You are Jewish. So you are not, you are not --
Dr. Pieczenik: I'm Jewish. I come out of the Holocaust. But remember, Netanyahu did not come out of the Holocaust. Contrary to everything that Netanyahu is telling America, and is telling Obama, everything he said is a lie, including what is father wrote. His father was a teacher at Cornell. What he continuously said, and I am saying this as a Jew on the eve of a holiday, is that the Israel was the foundation of salvation for the persecution of Jews. Nothing could have been a greater lie than the fact that Israel or Palestine at the time was of no value to the Israelis, on the contrary, to the Jews. On the contrary, when Eichmann came, and he was trained in Hebrew, 1927, a deal offered by Hitler to save thousands of Hungarian Jews in return for trucks [or bucks? heard correctly?], and Ben Gurion said, "I would rather have 400 cows than one diaspora Jew." Repeatedly, Israel turned down any help to help the diaspora Jew. They did, however, 1933 in Palestine take 36,000 German Jews in return for money, and worked with Heydrich, and worked with Heydrich who was a Jew. I am talking as a diaspora Jew. There were 165,000 German Jews calledMischlinge in Hitler's Army. None of which Netanyahu wants to talk about. None of which Netanyahu will admit. 
Jones: Dr. Pieczenik, this is super deep history you are getting into, and we appreciate you --
Dr. Pieczenik: Well, let me just say something. Everything Bibi is saying to America and to the American Jews is an absolute, unmitigated lie. Not since 1968 was Israel ever interested in the diaspora Jew or using the Holocaust. Then they created the machinery to use the Holocaust as a way of mobilizing guilt and anxiety over the world. But they are not the only culprit. The next culprit is Saudi Arabia. And theSudairi Seven [heard correctly?], that is, the wife [heard correctly?] of King Abdulaziz. Let us put it this way very simply. The Faisal and Saud families are not legitimate heirs to Saudi Arabia. It was created by England. They created in a concept called divide and conquer. A family that came out of Riyadh [heard correctly?], most of you saw that in Lawrence of Arabia film. It does not exist. They are Wahhabis. They distort the Koran. The message of the Koran throughout history has always been peace and love and working with all of the religions. They were formidable, and the Wahhabis are the total distortion. The true descendants of Mecca and Medina are not King Faisal of Saudi, they are the Hashemites. But the British took them away from Saudi Arabia and put one in Iraq who was four year old, and another one in Jordan so that they would never ever have an ability to have the true leaders of the prophet of Mohammed. So what we have here is a collusion between Saudi Arabia and the neocon Jews of America and Israel against a President who whether I like or dislike and may have lied on Osama Bin Laden, he is the son of a CIA operative. The grandson of a CIA operative who understands very well what the issues of intelligence are, including the United States ambassador who understands very well what happens with neocons versus --
Jones: Put it in layman's terms though so people -- [Dr. Pieczenik says something in the background] -- sure, sure, bottom line, what is the point of killing the ambassador?. What is the point of turning Al Qaeda -- 
Dr. Pieczenik: Killing the ambassador is to precipitate a war so that Israel can finally get into Iran and try to destroy Iran. It will be the beginning of the end of Israel. It is Armageddon for Israel. Israel wants to go in, but it wants to force America to take it out of its trouble in Iran, because Israel cannot succeed in any flight into Iran. It is impossible logistically and strategically. Israel lost every war since '68. There is not one war they have succeeded in despite what they may say to everybody else. In the last war where they lost thousands of men, will be a reminder to the Israeli mothers that every time they send their children to war, they will die in multiples, and no Americans will come to help them. Petraeus will not come. Dempsey will not come. Neither will any other soldiers or intelligence operatives. So what we have here is an internal strife against Saudi Arabia, the United States, attacking one of our ambassadors and killing him in the name of the fact that he was a representative of the United States and he was an Arabist. Now let me tell you what an Arabist is very quickly so your audience understands. They were famous people who helped to develop a treaty, the only treaty that has ever been done between Israel and a Muslim country. Egypt was called -- at the Camp David Accord in which I was privileged to be a member, and one of the most famous people there was Hermann Eilts, the ambassador to Egypt. An Arabist. Another one is Frank Wisner [spelling?] who should have been Secretary of State. A great foreign service officer. Another person is a man by the name of Chas Freeman, who was accused by the neocons of being anti-Israel because he speaks Arabic. He is a scholar. He is a foreign service officer. So what you are seeing here is a division within the United States by Zionists, not Jews only, but the Zionists, Israeli Mossad operatives and Saudi financing in order to denigrate the value of our foreign service officers who are trained in culture, Arabic studies, including April Glaspie. And the President who got rid of all of our Arabists under neocon pressure was Clinton. Ironically Hillary Clinton was trying to maintain the peace. Her husband was totally intimidated by the neocon Jews to get rid of everyArabist in the State Department and put in people like Martin Indyk -- 
Alex Jones: All right -- 
Dr. Pieczenik: Martin Indyk was our ambassador to Israel, was nothing more than an Australian spy who was in one day, he became an American citizen, was appointed by Dennis Ross, another neocon who works with Paul Wolfowitz, and made our ambassador to Israel -- [55:54]
Jones: All right, let me stop you, Doc, Doc, Doc, we are going to have you back up very early this week for an hour and a half because you, I mean obviously you need to go over this whole history for people who don’t understand it. But, but, but here is the issue. We are about to go to break, but what I need to understand here is, you have got the British fleet massing. They never go somewhere unless there is a war. You have got twenty five nations all gathering. This is hardly in the news. You have QE Unlimited starting. You have got our government digging in like it is the end of the world. All the evidence I see says they are going ahead in October, late October, with this, and it could lead to World War III. Is that accurate?
Dr. Pieczenik: That is accurate. It could be earlier than October because we haveYom Kippur, and I predicted on your radio show, and I predicted to our national security people privately that Bibi Netanyahu would start something on Rosh Hashanah. This was over a year ago, and I said it on your radio show. He was as predictable as a clock. And the Israelis will be very predictable on Yom Kippur. In a couple of weeks they will try to initiate another war unless their ex-Mossad operatives and their ex-Shin Bet will take out Netanyahu, and do to Netanyahu what happened to Rabin. They know what I am talking about. Otherwise this -- he will bring down Israel, the world, and there will be a Third World War. [Editor's Note: At this point the online video version cuts out, and returns at 1:00:23 below. The following is from the MP3 version]. Turkey is trying to help us, Russia is trying to help us, Syria is trying to help us -- 
Jones: Well Dr. Pieczenik, I think everybody knows what you are talking about right there. Again, I am in over my head. This is pretty hard core stuff. All I know is I want peace. I do not want a world war. I see the police, everybody digging in for what they say is the end of America, and I don’t like it. I don’t like where this is going because a bunch of people want the end of the world. People in Israel, people in Iran, and a bunch of Christians who I don’t think are very Christian. We will be right back, stay with us. Second hour coming up, this is real radio. [Start of break at 57:47, end of break at: 1:00:23]
Jones: Ladies and gentlemen, we are back live. Ladies and gentlemen, you know I am just absolutely stunned right now by the things that Dr. Pieczenik is talking about. Clearly the way the mainstream media is absolutely pouncing on and going after Obama is just so clear. I don't like Obama. I hate him. I hate his socialism, his anti-gun, all of it. I wish Romney was an alternative. I am not saying vote for either one of them. I know that Pieczenik is apolitical when it comes to this. Doc, we only have about five minutes left. You have really dropped some bomb shells here, but most analysts say this could easily lead to World War III. And the neocons are trying to destabilize Russia and overthrow them, trying to turn them into a new enemy, a new arms race. Doesn't the military industrial complex know that if they start World War III, there won't be anywhere to spend all that money they are getting?
Dr. Pieczenik: Well the military industrial complex at this point is totally denuded. What they are afraid of is the $2 trillion sub-, sub[unintelligible], the decrease in money they are going to get in the military. But the military right now is divided. What you have is military generals who have had experience and who no longer want to go into Iraq and Afghanistan and have told the President and others."This is enough. We have to get out of the sand box," as General Petraeus says, "And we have to leave." "We have a bigger issue that is much more important than the Middle East for us, and that is cyber war," as Keith Alexander said, and the issue is [as] Obama said, East Asia, the Pacific, and China's growing influence. 
Jones: The United States has lost all of its soft power by going in there, among other things, to "help" Israel. And notice these invasions haven't helped Israel. Israel is more insecure than ever.
Dr. Pieczenik: That is correct, because of their own paranoia and continuous paranoia and insecurity, they keep feeding it in a loop and what happens is there are soldiers who are no longer equipped. Remember, these are not the same Zionists that came in and established the state of Israel in 1948, which, by the way, they then committed in 1948 euthanasia and genocide which subsequently the Israelis admitted to. 
Jones: The ring worm children. 
Dr. Pieczenik: They did it to the Palestinians.
Jones: Well they also killed a bunch of the Sephardi Jews with the radiation. You know about that?
Dr. Pieczenik: Yes, I also know that they created a lot of agitation and propaganda in Morocco in order to force the Moroccan Jews to leave a very friendly friend to the Jews, King Hassan of Morocco. So the Israelis and the Zionists have created, have used the Jews of the diaspora, that means the Polish, Russian Jews, and Sephardi Jews, as a weapon to manipulate world opinion, to create agitation propaganda, in the same way Saudi Arabia is using their people, the Salafis, to be the thug men against the United States, and use it in the term of Al Qaeda or any form they want. But Saudi Arabia, which is falling apart now, because it is only a second or third generation illegitimate ruling class, from an illegitimate king, is now in the process of falling apart. Both states, Israel and Saudi Arabia are in desperate situations and they are trying to force America back into the Middle East. 
Jones: You have got Dempsey 
Dr. Pieczenik: Obama correctly is saying, "No," while Petraeus is saying, "No." While Dempsey is saying, "We will not go to war to protect you." [1:03:46] 
Jones: Well Doc, in closing, we are going to get you back up in the next few days. We appreciate your time, stevepieczenik.com.
Dr. Pieczenik: It is my pleasure and thank you.
Jones: But I mean, in closing, you did confront Dempsey. You told us about it. Later he came out after that and said, "Hey, don't blame the U.S. or me if Israel attacks." I think the answer, short of what you were talking about, which I certainly don't want earlier, is to have our military and our government unify and say, "We are not going to do this, stop it!" Because if they don't call this out -- this looks like false flag city to me, because if elements in Israel are this arrogant right now, they might pull a false flag. What do you say in twenty seconds?
Dr. Pieczenik: They absolutely pulled a false flag. This is a false flag. Our military clearly pointed out to me that the Libyan embassy was very far away when they had two days notice and basically --
Jones: I tell you what, do two more minutes. We have our next guest coming up, but do two more minutes, one minute break. Come back and make the point about embassy security. Dr. Pieczenik is our guest. [Break begins at 1:04:55. End of break at 1:06:17. The online video version recommences at "Navy SEAL and Telegraph" below].] 
Jones: Well, he has been a top hostage negotiator for the State Department. He wrote their book on psychological warfare. He has overthrown governments. Navy SEAL and Telegraph saying he manipulated the Communists he was fighting against to kill the Prime Minister of Italy. He will never talk about that on air, every time I bring that up. He served four or five presidents. He was a colonel before that from the Vietnam era in black ops. We have only got a few minutes left with Dr. Pieczenik who is [a] Jack Ryan character. Clancy said that is a composite of Dr. Pieczenik and a few others, but that he helped write those books. He is one of the experts helping Tom Clancy. He has also had his books put into major films. He is a very accomplished person. He is a big deal. And he is here telling us this, and he is communicating with intelligence agencies all over the world right now through this show. And you can take away from this what you want. I don't think you are idiots. So I will bring on high powered guests who will have discussions that go on behind the scenes at the Pentagon, the high level brass meetings, and the highest levels of the Council on Foreign Relations. This guy has worked for George Bush senior. Worked right under Henry Kissinger, I am not going to get into it all, but I mean he is definitely from the major power structure. And the fact that he is here saying these types of things -- he has been on and off the show for ten years -- really is frightening because he is not pulling any punches now. I mean Dr. Pieczenk knows where the bodies are buried. Doc, you are going to be back with us Tuesday for an hour and a half --
Dr. Pieczenik: Yes. 
Jones: Because this is moving quickly, World War III. 
Dr. Pieczenik: Right
 Financial collapse, that is why all this is happening. But talk about the embassy and the killing of the ambassador in Benghazi and the point you have made that your average Jihadis basically could not do this, and the message that was sent, and how that ties into your sources. You were telling me off air that your Pentagon sources, I mean, they know who really killed this guy and the message it is meant to send. 
Dr. Pieczenik: Well the message it was meant to send, the Pentagon source that informed me that the distance between the Libyan embassy where our ambassador was, and where the rioters were, was so large, and two days of delay in response, meaning simply that they were professionals ready to take out our ambassador who is an Arabist. And the reason I say he is an Arabist is because basically they wanted to kill him because he was too influential in the Arab world. He was too dangerous to Israeli interests, to Saudi interests, and to certain American national security interests run by the neocons. Now when we say that Obama is like Carter, I worked for Jimmy Carter, and Jimmy Carter was the only President of the United States to ever make a Camp David peace accord. The only President of the United States to implement human rights issues, and the only President of the United States to fire 4,000 -- listen to me very carefully -- 4,000 human operatives of the CIA. He realized how disastrous the CIA had been. What General Eisenhower said all along, that this is the legacy of ashes, and it will destroy our country until we contain and restrain the CIA. This is where Jimmy Carter, a great President in retrospect, and I think Obama should be very proud of him, but the neocons have degraded him to say this is our Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter was our only President who ever made a peace treaty with Israel -- I worked with Anwar Sadat, I worked with Menachem Begin, I worked with Hermann Eilts -- 
Jones: You got arrested by Assad --
Dr. Pieczenik: -- Chas Freeman. These were great men.
Jones: Well some day you have got to come on and talk about all the amazing things that you did. I know that most of it is classified, but you know what is --
Dr. Pieczenik: Its not. I'll talk about it, but let's have some more time, and I want to talk to you on air and thank them for listening. And thank you.
Jones: Let me ask this question briefly here, Dr. Pieczenik
Dr. Pieczenik: Sure.
Jones: What is the strategy, because I know you were on here a few months criticizing Obama. I mean, again I am apolitical. I am not Romney or Obama. I want to get your perspective. I respect your view and perspective. We are going to get another one here in a moment. I want listeners to really hear this inside info for themselves and decide if they think it is accurate or not. But how do they think they are going to get away with this, putting Al Qaeda --. 
Dr. Pieczenik: They are going to get away with it because, as I told you on the last show, there is a real issue that Dempsey had presented to the whole group of us that our American military is really concerned about, and that is a few minutes of delay time, of prepositioning time that Israel will not give the United States, and they will launch an attack, which [is] presumably by Netanyahu and the Israeli Defense Forces strategy, will think will force us into saving them from total destruction. And the answer is Netanyahu has no idea that Petraeus will not save him, Dempsey will not save him, our Navy will not save him, McRaven will not save him, neither will Obama. He cannot get that message through. So he is pushing this through until he kills one of our ambassadors, precipitates what we call agitation propaganda, only with the approval of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel are twins. They are doppelgängers. There is no way you can separate Israel from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel, they go back all the way back to 9/11. They go back to the days when Jimmy Carter fired 4,000 operatives, because these people went to Saudi Arabia, those people who were left in the agency went to Saudi Arabia. The Mossad, and the Pakistani ISI took [them to] reconstitute an intelligence service which was totally illegal. Many of those who came in the Carter administration, Jews like Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, who was an operative underneath the Australian government, and was an American citizen for only one day was appointed an American Ambassador to Israel so Dennis Ross the neocon could control him — [1:12:18] 
Jones: All right, well let me stop right there, stop right there Doc. We will be back on Tuesday to break this down, but bottom line, the twenty five fleets, this is London Telegraph, Associated Press, are converging. Twenty five nations are converging on the strategically important Strait of Hormuz. They have never done this in the last five years of saber rattling. My intel is right now Israel has tentatively green lit an attack any time in the next month and a half against Iran. Iran will then attack U.S. bases all over the Middle East with their missiles, drawing the United States in. By having the Al Qaeda groups that Saudi Arabia runs start attacking U.S. facilities, they believe that will create a sympathetic response domestically in the U.S. for a call to attack Arabs, because people are politically and geopolitically totally ignorant, to the level of basically being brain dead, and so now there is this saber rattling "Yeah, let’s bomb the Arabs." You can see the manipulation, the propaganda is what targeted about a five year old mentality. Briefly, do you concur with that analysis? [1:13:26] 
Dr. Pieczenik: Yes. Basically I will summarize it in this. As Hitler created the first Holocaust of the Jews, Netanyahu will be responsible for the second Holocaust of the Jews in the 21st century. He will be the Hitler of the 21st century to the Jews. On this New Years Eve this is what I say about Netanyahu. He was part of 9/11. He was part of the conspiracy, the agitation propaganda, the killings, and now the agitation for precipitation of war. When that war goes we will have a holocaust and a pogrom the likes of which we haven’t seen since the days of Hitler. He is our new Hitler. 
Jones: Whoa. OK, wow. Dr. Pieczenik, thank you so much, we will talk to you Tuesday. 
Dr. Pieczenik: My pleasure, bye. 
Jones: All right, there he goes. We have Dr. Webster Griffin Tarpley waiting, and I did not even know this would go in this direction. I am in way over my head, and I study this stuff 24/7. Folks, if you knew who Dr. Pieczenik was, I mean, he has been in every black op you can imagine. He is the guy Jack Ryan is based on in Patriot Games. I mean, Webster Tarpley is a doctor of history, an economist who has been all over the world. Been to Tripoli, under bombardment. Just been to Syria. Pieczenik has been arrested by Assad's dad before, back when he was the leader. It is just so wild. I don't know what to say about this. Pieczenik is pulling no punches. I mean I had no idea that would even go in that direction. As for Netanyahu being Hitler, again, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just want my Bill of Rights and Constitution. I don't want World War III. And you have got two famous Jews, like Netanyahu and you have got Pieczenik who is Jewish, over there in this fight going on. [Ed. Note: online video version stops here]. It is above my pay grade, I will tell you right now. We are going to the break, Webster Tarpley for the rest of the hour, who I highly respect on this issue. Geopolitically there are few people I respect more. In fact, he is incredible in his historical understanding and analysis, and I am somebody who is somewhat learned. We'll just leave it at that. And we are going to come back with him. I am just absolutely flabbergasted right now, and I am speechless. But you are going to see a lot of wild stuff happen, folks, because the dollar is going into hyperinflation, they are gearing up for martial law in the U.S. That is now publicly admitted. 1.4 billion bullets for us. The Russians are lining up for war, the Western interests are trying to overthrow Russia, stirring them up. There are fleets off the coast of China menacing them. Japan is being agitated into conflict with China, and you have got just all this craziness taking place. This is the stuff you see before World Wars. We will be back.[1:15:59]


Editor's Additional Notes

I downloaded and scanned through the Tuesday 18 September show, and Alex Jones did not have Dr. Pieczenik back on for a repeat interview as promised many times in the interview above. Nor was he back on during any of the Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday shows which I also downloaded and scanned.

Then I went to Dr. Pieczenik's web site at: https://stevepieczenik.com/ and discovered his side of the story, as well as those of many of his readers:

Twitter: Steve Pieczenik @StevePieczenik
18 September 2012
Steve Pieczenik ?@StevePieczenik [wrote]
Alex Jones just pulled me off his 1:30 show today. He was intimidated by the very people we talked about. no worries, truth will prevail.

At his blog: https://stevepieczenik.com/blog.html
Dr. Pieczenik
Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Okay, no Alex Jones today! Just got a call from info wars, canceling my interview. I think Alex was intimidated by the very people and organizations that we were talking about. Stay tuned, more to come.
Posted by Steve Pieczenik at 8:30 AM

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