Exposing Falsehoods and Revealing Truths
Three Action Items related to 9/11 Truth
Free Americans Reaching Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free
Via
August 11, 2009
NOTE: I urge you to help with this. It's quite an important moment in the history of
the 9/11 Truth Movement. -- kl, pp
From: "JP Liggett" Date: August 11, 2009 6:17:22 AM GMT-05:00
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, 9-11-NeXuS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Review of Signatures Kicks Off With Promise CALL FOR
VOLUNTEERS - NEXT 8 DAYS
Reply-To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Call for Volunteers to Help the CAN Project,
the 911 Truth Movement Needs YOU
Please help!!!
Lets show folks how serious we are....... I'll see you there.
----- Forwarded by JP Liggett/CEO/JPL on 08/11/2009 07:12 AM -----
From:
NYC CAN
To:
jp@jpliggett.com
Date:
08/11/2009 12:26 AM
Subject:
Review of Signatures Kicks Off With Promise
NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
August 10, 2009
Today we began the signature review, and with much promise! The first step: to do a
recount of the signatures the Board of Elections did validate. And, after counting only
5 out of 52 volumes, we have found the Board of Elections reported 229 signatures fewer
than what they actually validated inside the volumes. If their count continues to be
off at the same rate, we will gain some 2,300 signatures - SIMPLY BY RECOUNTING THE ONES
THAT WERE ALREADY VALIDATED. And we have already identified one petitioner who collected
hundreds of signatures and was wrongly invalidated, along with all the signatures he
gathered! And there are thousands of invalidated signatures ripe for challenging
because the signer is on the voter roll but put their wrong address - these signatures
will also be deemed valid if the signature on the petition matches the signature on
their voter registration form.
In short, we have every reason to be optimistic that we will eclipse the 30,000
requirement, and that we will have our day in court to argue our right to establish a
new commission to investigate 9/11.
We need help. We have 9 more business days to finish our review, and we have no more
than 8 volunteers signed up to help on any day. We can use 20 volunteers per day, and we
will need that many to get the job done. If you live in or around NYC, please give just
one or two business days between now and next Friday, August 21. Whether you can give
one day or five days, please email us at volunteer@nyccan.orgwith your name, phone
number and schedule of availability, and please put VOLUNTEER in the subject field. Come
get a free lunch and be part of this historic recount!
The last month has seen some very positive coverage, and it will grow after we prove
valid the thousands of signatures wrongly invalidated by the City Clerk and Board of
Elections. If you haven't read this great coverage, take a look! Below the headlines is
our most recent press release, which should also give you a much clearer picture of
what is going on legally.
And, we are in negotiations with an outstanding election lawyer to represent us in court
after we eclipse the 30,000 requirement. We will update you as soon as the agreement is
finalized.
Together we are making history. Thank you!
___________________________________________________
A Star Ledger Reporter, August 9:http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/
2009/08/911_survivors_call_for_renewed.html
The Villager, July 28 - August 4:http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/
2009/08/911_survivors_call_for_renewed.html
The New York Post, July 14:http://www.nypost.com/seven/07142009/news/
regionalnews/kin_eye_9_11_panel_179145.htm
________________________________________________________________________ _
New York Supreme Court Orders Review of 24,000 Petition Signatures Invalidated by New
York City Clerk; Petition Calls for Local Commission to Investigate 9/11
New York City – This week a New York Supreme Court referee ordered a line-by-line review
of petition signatures that were declared invalid by the New York City Clerk and Board
of Elections. The review is the next step in challenging the City Clerk’s rejection of
the NYC CAN petition for a local independent commission to investigate 9/11 and comes
after the group filed a Verified Petition/Order to Show Cause with the Supreme Court on
July 29. NYC CAN originally filed the petition containing 52,000 signatures at the City
Clerk’s office on June 24.
At a meeting on Thursday the Referee allotted an initial two-week period from August 10
to August 24 for the signature recount and review process. NYC CAN has assembled a staff
to begin recounting the already validated signatures and reviewing each of the 24,664
invalidated signatures against an April 2009 Board of Elections database of registered
voters. All disputed signatures will be made part of a Bill of Particulars and presented
to the referee for review.
The NYC CAN petition was rejected by the City Clerk on Friday, July 24, who validated
26,003 signatures – 3,997 shy of the benchmark minimum of 30,000 signatures of qualified
voters prescribed in the applicable Home Rule Law.
If the threshold of 30,000 qualified electors is reached as a result of the recount,
lawyers for the petitioners and the City will argue the fine points of the Home Rule Law
and Election Law in a later proceeding. If the courts rule in favor of the petitioners
and validates the Petition, the City Council is compelled to vote on whether to put the
referendum before the voters this November. If the Council votes against it, the Home
Rule Law allows NYC CAN to submit another 15,000 signatures to move the question
directly to the voters in November.
Paralleling the recount, NYC CAN is actively lobbying members of the City Council who
can of their own volition independently work with the petition to establish the proposed
independent commission. Each member of City Council will be presented with a copy of a
documentary film, 9/11 Press for Truth, which tells the story of the 9/11 family
members who were betrayed by the 9/11 Commission in its failure to answer most of the
questions posed by the 9/11 families. NYC CAN is calling upon its supporters to continue
the flood of phone calls City Council has seen over the past two weeks.
“One day our elected officials will have to accept it is our right – not a privilege –
to get a real investigation into the death of our loved ones”, said Donna Marsh
O’Connor, mother of Vanessa Lang Langer, who died on September 11th.
Thinkers think and talkers talk. Patriots ACT.
=============================
9/11 Mind Swell
Scientific evidence refutes the official story
by Joel S. Hirschhorn
Global Research, August 11, 2009
As we approach the eighth anniversary of 9/11 consider this paradox. In the post 9-11
years the scientific evidence for disbelieving the official government story has mounted
incredibly. And the number of highly respected and credentialed professionals
challenging the official story has similarly expanded.
Yet, to the considerable disappointment of the international 9/11 truth movement, the
objective fact is that there are no widespread, loud demands for a new government-backed
9/11 investigation. The 9/11 truth movement is the epitome of a marginalized movement,
one that never goes away despite not achieving truly meaningful results, which in this
case means replacing official lies with official truth. What has gone wrong?
Akin to the definition of insanity, the hallmark of entrenched but marginalized
movements is that they continue to pursue exactly the same strategy and tactics that
have failed to produce solid results. They indulge themselves with self-delusion,
defensive thinking and acting as if the world at large must surely and finally wake up,
see the light and embrace the Truth. Years and, potentially, decades go by, but this
quixotic status quo remains embedded, as if set in intellectual concrete. There is no
brain tumor to blame. Nor any mass hypnosis of true believers to prove. There is just
monumental disinterest among the dominant culture, political establishment and the
broad public that is far more engaged with other issues, problems and movements.
The 9/11 truth movement, at best, gets meager public attention when it is derided and
insulted, used as an example of persistent conspiratorial insanity.
Make no mistake; I concluded a few years back, after using my professional engineering
and materials science background to study the evidence, that the official government
story is a lie. As a former full professor of engineering, I firmly believe that
elements of the US government were involved with contributing to (not just allowing)
the 9/11 tragedy, but that does not necessarily eliminate the role of those terrorists
publicly blamed for the events. Science, logic, evidence and critical thinking told me
this.
Who should we blame for the failure of the 9/11 truth movement to fix the historical
record and, better yet, identify those in the government who turned 9/11 into an excuse
for going to war, getting them indicted, prosecuted, and punished for their murderous
acts?
It is too easy to blame the mainstream media and political establishment for refusing to
demand and pursue a truly comprehensive and credible independent scientific and
engineering investigation. President Obama with his tenacious belief in looking
forward, not backward, exemplifies a national mindset to avoid the painful search for
truth and justice that could produce still more public disillusionment with government
and feed the belief that American democracy is weak at best, and delusional at worst.
Marginalized movements always face competition for public attention. There are always
countless national issues and problems that feed new movements and distract the public.
There have been many since 9/11, not the least of which was the last presidential
campaign and then the painful economic recession, and now the right wing attacks on
health care reform. The 9/11 truth movement illustrates a total failure to compete
successfully with other events and movements.
This can be explained in several ways. The 9/11 movement has not been able to
articulate enough benefits to the public from disbelieving the official government story
and pursuing a new investigation. What might ordinary Americans gain? Would proof-
positive of government involvement make them feel better, more secure, and more
patriotic? Apparently not. In fact, just the opposite. By its very nature, the 9/11
issue threatens many things by discovering the truth: still less confidence in the US
political system, government and public officials. Still more reason to ponder the
incredible loss of life and national wealth in pursuing the Iraq war. In other words,
revealing 9/11 truth offers the specter of a huge national bummer. Conversely, it would
show the world that American democracy has integrity.
The second explanation for failure is that the truth movement itself is greatly to
blame. It has been filled with nerdish, ego-centric and self-serving activists (often
most interested in pushing their pet theory) unable to pursue strategies designed to
face and overcome ugly, challenging realities. The truth movement became a cottage
industry providing income and meaning for many individuals and groups feeding the
committed with endless websites, public talks, videos, books and paraphernalia. They
habitually preach to the choir. Applause substitutes for solid results. In particular,
it embraces the simplistic (and obviously ineffective) belief that by revealing
technical, scientific and engineering facts and evidence the public and political
establishment would be compelled to see the light. Darkness has prevailed.
Proof of this are the views expressed days ago on the truth movement by Ben Cohen on the
Huffington Post: “I have done some research on the topic, but stopped fairly quickly
into when it dawned on me that: 1. Any alternative to the official account of what
happened is so absurd it simply cannot be true. 2. No reputable scientific journal has
ever taken any of the 'science' of the conspiracy seriously. 3. The evidence supporting
the official story is overwhelming, whereas the 9/11 Truthers have yet to produce a
shred of concrete evidence that members of the U.S. government planned the attacks in
New York and Washington .” Similarly, in the London Times James Bone recently said a
“gruesome assortment of conspiracy theorists insists that the attacks on the US of
September 11, 2001 were an inside job. It is easy to mock this deluded gang of ageing
hippies, anarchists and anti-Semites.” Truthers continue to face a very steep uphill
battle.
A common lie about the truth movement is that there have been no credible scientific
articles in peer reviewed journals supporting it. But those opposing the truth movement
will and do find ways to attack whatever scientific evidence is produced and published.
It takes more than good science and facts for the movement to succeed.
Besides the movement having too many genuine crackpots (possibly trying to subvert it),
a larger problem is what has been missing from it: effective political strategies.
Besides pushing scientific results and more credible supporters, it did nothing
successful to make a new 9/11 investigation a visible issue in the last presidential
campaign. It did nothing effective to put pressure on a new, Democrat controlled
congress to consider legislation providing the authorization and funding for a new,
credible investigation. It seems that people who want to blame the government are often
unable to also see the political path forward that requires the government to fund a
new investigation.
To its credit, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth does have a petition aimed at
Congress, demanding a new investigation, but has fewer than 5,000 signers. The petition
effort in New York City to get a new investigation is commendable, with just under
75,000 signers, but national action is needed. Pragmatically, both efforts are
unimpressive compared to other campaigns seeking political action. To get both media
attention and political support the movement needs a hundred times more documented
supporters, willing to do a lot more than sign a petition.
The tenth anniversary of 9/11 will come fast. The opportunity is making 9/11 an issue
in the 2012 presidential campaign. The least delusional and defensive in the truth
movement should think deeply and seriously on what needs to change to accomplish the
prime goal: having an official investigation that compels most people and history to
accept the truth, no matter how painful it is, including the possibility that it finds
no compelling evidence for government involvement.
Contact Joel S. Hirschhorn through www.delusionaldemocracy.com
Via
August 11, 2009
NOTE: I urge you to help with this. It's quite an important moment in the history of
the 9/11 Truth Movement. -- kl, pp
From: "JP Liggett" Date: August 11, 2009 6:17:22 AM GMT-05:00
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, 9-11-NeXuS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Review of Signatures Kicks Off With Promise CALL FOR
VOLUNTEERS - NEXT 8 DAYS
Reply-To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Call for Volunteers to Help the CAN Project,
the 911 Truth Movement Needs YOU
Please help!!!
Lets show folks how serious we are....... I'll see you there.
----- Forwarded by JP Liggett/CEO/JPL on 08/11/2009 07:12 AM -----
From:
NYC CAN
To:
jp@jpliggett.com
Date:
08/11/2009 12:26 AM
Subject:
Review of Signatures Kicks Off With Promise
NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
August 10, 2009
Today we began the signature review, and with much promise! The first step: to do a
recount of the signatures the Board of Elections did validate. And, after counting only
5 out of 52 volumes, we have found the Board of Elections reported 229 signatures fewer
than what they actually validated inside the volumes. If their count continues to be
off at the same rate, we will gain some 2,300 signatures - SIMPLY BY RECOUNTING THE ONES
THAT WERE ALREADY VALIDATED. And we have already identified one petitioner who collected
hundreds of signatures and was wrongly invalidated, along with all the signatures he
gathered! And there are thousands of invalidated signatures ripe for challenging
because the signer is on the voter roll but put their wrong address - these signatures
will also be deemed valid if the signature on the petition matches the signature on
their voter registration form.
In short, we have every reason to be optimistic that we will eclipse the 30,000
requirement, and that we will have our day in court to argue our right to establish a
new commission to investigate 9/11.
We need help. We have 9 more business days to finish our review, and we have no more
than 8 volunteers signed up to help on any day. We can use 20 volunteers per day, and we
will need that many to get the job done. If you live in or around NYC, please give just
one or two business days between now and next Friday, August 21. Whether you can give
one day or five days, please email us at volunteer@nyccan.orgwith your name, phone
number and schedule of availability, and please put VOLUNTEER in the subject field. Come
get a free lunch and be part of this historic recount!
The last month has seen some very positive coverage, and it will grow after we prove
valid the thousands of signatures wrongly invalidated by the City Clerk and Board of
Elections. If you haven't read this great coverage, take a look! Below the headlines is
our most recent press release, which should also give you a much clearer picture of
what is going on legally.
And, we are in negotiations with an outstanding election lawyer to represent us in court
after we eclipse the 30,000 requirement. We will update you as soon as the agreement is
finalized.
Together we are making history. Thank you!
___________________________________________________
A Star Ledger Reporter, August 9:http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/
2009/08/911_survivors_call_for_renewed.html
The Villager, July 28 - August 4:http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/
2009/08/911_survivors_call_for_renewed.html
The New York Post, July 14:http://www.nypost.com/seven/07142009/news/
regionalnews/kin_eye_9_11_panel_179145.htm
________________________________________________________________________ _
New York Supreme Court Orders Review of 24,000 Petition Signatures Invalidated by New
York City Clerk; Petition Calls for Local Commission to Investigate 9/11
New York City – This week a New York Supreme Court referee ordered a line-by-line review
of petition signatures that were declared invalid by the New York City Clerk and Board
of Elections. The review is the next step in challenging the City Clerk’s rejection of
the NYC CAN petition for a local independent commission to investigate 9/11 and comes
after the group filed a Verified Petition/Order to Show Cause with the Supreme Court on
July 29. NYC CAN originally filed the petition containing 52,000 signatures at the City
Clerk’s office on June 24.
At a meeting on Thursday the Referee allotted an initial two-week period from August 10
to August 24 for the signature recount and review process. NYC CAN has assembled a staff
to begin recounting the already validated signatures and reviewing each of the 24,664
invalidated signatures against an April 2009 Board of Elections database of registered
voters. All disputed signatures will be made part of a Bill of Particulars and presented
to the referee for review.
The NYC CAN petition was rejected by the City Clerk on Friday, July 24, who validated
26,003 signatures – 3,997 shy of the benchmark minimum of 30,000 signatures of qualified
voters prescribed in the applicable Home Rule Law.
If the threshold of 30,000 qualified electors is reached as a result of the recount,
lawyers for the petitioners and the City will argue the fine points of the Home Rule Law
and Election Law in a later proceeding. If the courts rule in favor of the petitioners
and validates the Petition, the City Council is compelled to vote on whether to put the
referendum before the voters this November. If the Council votes against it, the Home
Rule Law allows NYC CAN to submit another 15,000 signatures to move the question
directly to the voters in November.
Paralleling the recount, NYC CAN is actively lobbying members of the City Council who
can of their own volition independently work with the petition to establish the proposed
independent commission. Each member of City Council will be presented with a copy of a
documentary film, 9/11 Press for Truth, which tells the story of the 9/11 family
members who were betrayed by the 9/11 Commission in its failure to answer most of the
questions posed by the 9/11 families. NYC CAN is calling upon its supporters to continue
the flood of phone calls City Council has seen over the past two weeks.
“One day our elected officials will have to accept it is our right – not a privilege –
to get a real investigation into the death of our loved ones”, said Donna Marsh
O’Connor, mother of Vanessa Lang Langer, who died on September 11th.
Thinkers think and talkers talk. Patriots ACT.
=============================
9/11 Mind Swell
Scientific evidence refutes the official story
by Joel S. Hirschhorn
Global Research, August 11, 2009
As we approach the eighth anniversary of 9/11 consider this paradox. In the post 9-11
years the scientific evidence for disbelieving the official government story has mounted
incredibly. And the number of highly respected and credentialed professionals
challenging the official story has similarly expanded.
Yet, to the considerable disappointment of the international 9/11 truth movement, the
objective fact is that there are no widespread, loud demands for a new government-backed
9/11 investigation. The 9/11 truth movement is the epitome of a marginalized movement,
one that never goes away despite not achieving truly meaningful results, which in this
case means replacing official lies with official truth. What has gone wrong?
Akin to the definition of insanity, the hallmark of entrenched but marginalized
movements is that they continue to pursue exactly the same strategy and tactics that
have failed to produce solid results. They indulge themselves with self-delusion,
defensive thinking and acting as if the world at large must surely and finally wake up,
see the light and embrace the Truth. Years and, potentially, decades go by, but this
quixotic status quo remains embedded, as if set in intellectual concrete. There is no
brain tumor to blame. Nor any mass hypnosis of true believers to prove. There is just
monumental disinterest among the dominant culture, political establishment and the
broad public that is far more engaged with other issues, problems and movements.
The 9/11 truth movement, at best, gets meager public attention when it is derided and
insulted, used as an example of persistent conspiratorial insanity.
Make no mistake; I concluded a few years back, after using my professional engineering
and materials science background to study the evidence, that the official government
story is a lie. As a former full professor of engineering, I firmly believe that
elements of the US government were involved with contributing to (not just allowing)
the 9/11 tragedy, but that does not necessarily eliminate the role of those terrorists
publicly blamed for the events. Science, logic, evidence and critical thinking told me
this.
Who should we blame for the failure of the 9/11 truth movement to fix the historical
record and, better yet, identify those in the government who turned 9/11 into an excuse
for going to war, getting them indicted, prosecuted, and punished for their murderous
acts?
It is too easy to blame the mainstream media and political establishment for refusing to
demand and pursue a truly comprehensive and credible independent scientific and
engineering investigation. President Obama with his tenacious belief in looking
forward, not backward, exemplifies a national mindset to avoid the painful search for
truth and justice that could produce still more public disillusionment with government
and feed the belief that American democracy is weak at best, and delusional at worst.
Marginalized movements always face competition for public attention. There are always
countless national issues and problems that feed new movements and distract the public.
There have been many since 9/11, not the least of which was the last presidential
campaign and then the painful economic recession, and now the right wing attacks on
health care reform. The 9/11 truth movement illustrates a total failure to compete
successfully with other events and movements.
This can be explained in several ways. The 9/11 movement has not been able to
articulate enough benefits to the public from disbelieving the official government story
and pursuing a new investigation. What might ordinary Americans gain? Would proof-
positive of government involvement make them feel better, more secure, and more
patriotic? Apparently not. In fact, just the opposite. By its very nature, the 9/11
issue threatens many things by discovering the truth: still less confidence in the US
political system, government and public officials. Still more reason to ponder the
incredible loss of life and national wealth in pursuing the Iraq war. In other words,
revealing 9/11 truth offers the specter of a huge national bummer. Conversely, it would
show the world that American democracy has integrity.
The second explanation for failure is that the truth movement itself is greatly to
blame. It has been filled with nerdish, ego-centric and self-serving activists (often
most interested in pushing their pet theory) unable to pursue strategies designed to
face and overcome ugly, challenging realities. The truth movement became a cottage
industry providing income and meaning for many individuals and groups feeding the
committed with endless websites, public talks, videos, books and paraphernalia. They
habitually preach to the choir. Applause substitutes for solid results. In particular,
it embraces the simplistic (and obviously ineffective) belief that by revealing
technical, scientific and engineering facts and evidence the public and political
establishment would be compelled to see the light. Darkness has prevailed.
Proof of this are the views expressed days ago on the truth movement by Ben Cohen on the
Huffington Post: “I have done some research on the topic, but stopped fairly quickly
into when it dawned on me that: 1. Any alternative to the official account of what
happened is so absurd it simply cannot be true. 2. No reputable scientific journal has
ever taken any of the 'science' of the conspiracy seriously. 3. The evidence supporting
the official story is overwhelming, whereas the 9/11 Truthers have yet to produce a
shred of concrete evidence that members of the U.S. government planned the attacks in
New York and Washington .” Similarly, in the London Times James Bone recently said a
“gruesome assortment of conspiracy theorists insists that the attacks on the US of
September 11, 2001 were an inside job. It is easy to mock this deluded gang of ageing
hippies, anarchists and anti-Semites.” Truthers continue to face a very steep uphill
battle.
A common lie about the truth movement is that there have been no credible scientific
articles in peer reviewed journals supporting it. But those opposing the truth movement
will and do find ways to attack whatever scientific evidence is produced and published.
It takes more than good science and facts for the movement to succeed.
Besides the movement having too many genuine crackpots (possibly trying to subvert it),
a larger problem is what has been missing from it: effective political strategies.
Besides pushing scientific results and more credible supporters, it did nothing
successful to make a new 9/11 investigation a visible issue in the last presidential
campaign. It did nothing effective to put pressure on a new, Democrat controlled
congress to consider legislation providing the authorization and funding for a new,
credible investigation. It seems that people who want to blame the government are often
unable to also see the political path forward that requires the government to fund a
new investigation.
To its credit, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth does have a petition aimed at
Congress, demanding a new investigation, but has fewer than 5,000 signers. The petition
effort in New York City to get a new investigation is commendable, with just under
75,000 signers, but national action is needed. Pragmatically, both efforts are
unimpressive compared to other campaigns seeking political action. To get both media
attention and political support the movement needs a hundred times more documented
supporters, willing to do a lot more than sign a petition.
The tenth anniversary of 9/11 will come fast. The opportunity is making 9/11 an issue
in the 2012 presidential campaign. The least delusional and defensive in the truth
movement should think deeply and seriously on what needs to change to accomplish the
prime goal: having an official investigation that compels most people and history to
accept the truth, no matter how painful it is, including the possibility that it finds
no compelling evidence for government involvement.
Contact Joel S. Hirschhorn through www.delusionaldemocracy.com
Views: 49
Comment
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Comment by Thoth II on August 12, 2009 at 7:54am
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"2. No reputable scientific journal has
ever taken any of the 'science' of the conspiracy seriously"
That's probably because the science establishment is propped up by federal govt. funds. They do not dare bite the hand that feeds them.
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