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Fake attack on David Ray Griffin's studies of the fake phone calls . . .



More proof that 911blogger has gone over to the dark side. Even the FBI admitted that the alleged phone calls from Barbara Olson to her husband, Ted, had not occurred, even though Ted, our former Solicitor General, had claimed she called him twice and gave three different versions of how it happened, since cell phones don't work at that speed and altitude and Boeing 757s were not equipped with air phones.  If the Solicitor General, who represents the administration before the Supreme Court, will lie about 9/11, we know that no one associated with the government can be trusted.  Nor can 911Blogger.com, alas!



Submitted by loose nuke on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 9:55pm


Beginning with his book New Pearl Harbor  (2004) David Ray Griffin  raised questions concerning the veracity of reports of phone calls from the 9/11 hijacked airliners, specifically, Ted Olson’s account. Since at least 2006, he has promoted a theory that the 9/11 plane passenger phone calls were faked, and has speculated this was done with ‘voice-morphing’ technology. He’s done this in many different articles, in books, in speaking appearances, in interviews on radio and television, and in a debate with Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone magazine. In his 1/12/10 essay, Phone Calls from the 9/11 Airliners: Response to Questions Evoked b..., David Ray Griffin gives the most comprehensive overview of this theory to date, as well as a response to critics, which include people who support a new 9/11 investigation. A Professor Emeritus and skilled rhetorician, Griffin makes a case that is seemingly compelling. However, as I show in this essay, there is no actual evidence the phone calls were faked, while there is a substantial body of evidence demonstrating the calls were not only possible, but did happen. There are many credible reasons to doubt the official 9/11 story and support a full investigation, but the cause of compelling a new 9/11 investigation is undermined by the promotion of theories that are flawed, and not based on hard evidence. In addition, the claim that the phone calls were faked is obviously offensive to those family members who spoke with passengers before ..., and it has the potential to drive a wedge between truth and justice activists and potential allies among the family members, many of whom support a full investigation.


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Comment by James H. Fetzer on March 7, 2011 at 4:34pm
Cool it.  Thanks.
Comment by Shallel Octavia on March 7, 2011 at 4:23pm

It looks like we have a lot in  common, il mio amico, what Satanic Church do you attend?

The WAR GOD™ of Abraham is so fearsome and perfect! I mean just look at the carnage caused by his believers, the Jews, Christians, and Muslims. A witch can only hang her head in shame and impotence, and awe at the Satanic Majesty's cunning in sowing death and destruction! Even Ann Cavitelli. 


Pace e benedizioni sorella



Comment by jane doe on March 6, 2011 at 3:13pm
You are a freak.
Comment by Shallel Octavia on March 6, 2011 at 11:37am
Does this mean you don't want to have Sex Magick with me Agent 07august? You cannot possibly resist the Big Giant Head! (Now where did I put that licorice root?)

Did you hear about the voodoo acupuncturist?

You don't have to see him. Bwahaahaa!
Comment by jane doe on March 6, 2011 at 8:52am

Sounds as you really are as wacky as your avatar.


Move along, no one is taking the bait here.

Comment by Shallel Octavia on March 5, 2011 at 3:16am
Actually, I consider myself an Atheist for Christ, but thanks anyway, Jane!
Comment by jane doe on March 5, 2011 at 1:27am

Wow, I wouldn't expect anything more from a pagan, Octavia.

Comment by jane doe on February 16, 2011 at 6:30am

WTC Art History until 911

May 7, 1967, New York Times, Art Notes: A Colossus With Class, by Grace Glueck,

May 13, 1968, New York Times, "Ex-Stadium Vendor Is Giving a Rodin to Museum," by Milton Esterow,

May 7, 1970, New York Times, "Trade Center to Get Huge Sculpture," by John Canady,

July 19, 1977, New York Times, "A 200-ton granite sculpture by a Japanese artist..."

April 29, 1979 New York Times, "70 Works of Art Have Vanished From Port Authority in a Decade," by Ralph Blumenthal,

June 16, 1979, New York Times, "A Calder Stabile Makes a Move,"

May 4, 1989, New York Times, "A 'Love Affair' With Rodin That's Worth Celebrating," by Georgia Dullea,

January 24, 1999, SFGate.com, "Giving Everything They've Got: Keeper of the Rodin-Inspired Flame," by Edward Guthmann,

2000, Gelitin, The B-Thing, World Trade Center, New York, USA

Comment by jane doe on February 16, 2011 at 6:00am
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Art Insurance Fraud at the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001

$100 million in art insurance fraud of 911. Preplanning for 911 ritual implosions: artwork was evacuated. Pieces  "mysteriously allegedly were recovered" from the WTC debris

9/17/01 New York Times, "Arts Groups at a Tragedy's Center Try to Assess Where to Begin," by Peter Marks and Carol Vogel,

9/21/01 The Guardian, "Rodin treasures destroyed with 'museum in the sky," by Maev Kennedy

9/23/01 The Mail on Sunday (London, England) "Legal nightmare over terror bills; Vital insurance deals on twin towers were incomplete," by Lisa Buckingham, Cached,

9/24/01 The Art Newspaper, "The smoke and the risk," by David A'rcy,

9/24/01 Telegraph - Herald (Dubuque) "Millions of dollars in art lost in rubble; History destroyed: It is not yet known if any of the works are salvageable," The Associated Press,

9/27/01 USAToday.com, "Fine Art Worth $100M Lies Under WTC Rubble," by Noelle Knox, Reposted at Rense.com

...ten paragraphs of text with the following article by Katherine Roth in the Chicago-Sun Times, accessed at Highbeam research. For my analysis of the fascinating differences and similarities b

Comment by jane doe on February 16, 2011 at 5:06am

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Photos from 9/14-16/2001 of ground zero. Look at the site. None of these photos look as the photos fed to public.
See the other 92 Robert Segal photos at web archive:



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