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Fake attack on David Ray Griffin's studies of the fake phone calls . . .

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-02-10/critique-david-ray-griffin-s-...

 

More proof that 911blogger has gone over to the dark side. Even the FBI admitted that the alleged phone calls from Barbara Olson to her husband, Ted, had not occurred, even though Ted, our former Solicitor General, had claimed she called him twice and gave three different versions of how it happened, since cell phones don't work at that speed and altitude and Boeing 757s were not equipped with air phones.  If the Solicitor General, who represents the administration before the Supreme Court, will lie about 9/11, we know that no one associated with the government can be trusted.  Nor can 911Blogger.com, alas!

 

"CRITIQUE OF DAVID RAY GRIFFIN'S 9/11 FAKE CALLS THEORY" by Eric Larson

Submitted by loose nuke on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 9:55pm

 

Beginning with his book New Pearl Harbor  (2004) David Ray Griffin  raised questions concerning the veracity of reports of phone calls from the 9/11 hijacked airliners, specifically, Ted Olson’s account. Since at least 2006, he has promoted a theory that the 9/11 plane passenger phone calls were faked, and has speculated this was done with ‘voice-morphing’ technology. He’s done this in many different articles, in books, in speaking appearances, in interviews on radio and television, and in a debate with Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone magazine. In his 1/12/10 essay, Phone Calls from the 9/11 Airliners: Response to Questions Evoked b..., David Ray Griffin gives the most comprehensive overview of this theory to date, as well as a response to critics, which include people who support a new 9/11 investigation. A Professor Emeritus and skilled rhetorician, Griffin makes a case that is seemingly compelling. However, as I show in this essay, there is no actual evidence the phone calls were faked, while there is a substantial body of evidence demonstrating the calls were not only possible, but did happen. There are many credible reasons to doubt the official 9/11 story and support a full investigation, but the cause of compelling a new 9/11 investigation is undermined by the promotion of theories that are flawed, and not based on hard evidence. In addition, the claim that the phone calls were faked is obviously offensive to those family members who spoke with passengers before ..., and it has the potential to drive a wedge between truth and justice activists and potential allies among the family members, many of whom support a full investigation.

 

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Comment by James H. Fetzer on February 14, 2011 at 1:41am

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Comment by jane doe on February 14, 2011 at 12:56am

Please Jim, look into PVI. PVI sold the company in December 2010 to Sportvision and ESPN2. IT WAS A PVI VIRTUAL ANIMATION. Even the guys from letsrollforums agree with me NOW.

If you know someone who has a tv production truck, maybe they can show it to you. The operator plots a 3D wireframe on a camera shot. A point is picked from which the animation is executed. You will notice if you watch the helicopter footage, that the camera zooms in 2 times. The director was checking the animation in the preview monitor, before the plane animation was taken on the program monitor. The wireframe was a big off, and was not reset, that is why the plane icon went past the predetermined border. The camera shot MOVED. There were NO PLANES. It was an elaborate ILLUSION.

Don Dahler reported for ABC saying he didn't see a plane. Charles Gibson told him WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SEE.

 

Have you watched September Clues? There is plenty of video with no plane animation recorded on 911 to prove what you saw was a GRAPHIC, NO PLANE. Forbes is a paid UK plant. Too many adds to his story.

 

Comment by jane doe on February 14, 2011 at 12:43am

If people are still finding body parts in Manhattan in 2011 this is way out there. Since there were only vicsims the only body parts were planted. He played his own violin. There were so many stories composed on 911. Now, we know Edna Cintron was fake and there was no hole the second tower. I have lots of photos which show there was no hole in that building.

 

I hope that you look at the pictures Richard Segal took at Ground Zero. I was led there from the stevenwarran blogspot. It took me a few tries to get to the pictures, I will send them along when I can  google. btw, I sent Phil Jayhan this information via email after I asked him if he wanted the information that I found on Art Insurance fraud. You will see a totally different ground zero that existed than the one photoshopped for the public. I still can't google.

 

Comment by James H. Fetzer on February 14, 2011 at 12:12am
My best guess is that we were watching a hologram, which can fly faster than is possible with a real 767, can enter buildings in a fashion impossible for a real 767, can pass through its own length into the building in the same number of frames it passes through its own length in air, and can fly without strobe lights on the top and bottom of its fuselage and on its wing tips.  That's an article, not a YouTube.  Let me know what you think.  He (Scott Forbes) came across as quite serious and sincere to me, where his observation that the building simply "swallowed the plane" was consistent with a hologram, but not with a real plane.  I thought was was a "plus"!
Comment by jane doe on February 14, 2011 at 12:02am

I am still listening to the end of your radio show. The more he talked the more FOS he became.

 

To me I thought it looked like a cascade fountain of dust & sand.

The TALL SHIPS is what he is talking about. Tall Ships come every July 4 into the harbor. It happens every year. I will find the date of that year.

The planes were not flying 500 mph. That is what stunt pilots do in airshows, not commercial jets.
Sounds FOS to me, but I will research it. This guy is a plant. I will also list the other videos when I reply. Now, I will watch "New Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11." I joined your forum to see if there was something that I missed.

 

I also have the list of who was on what floor. I don't thing there was anyone above 92 because Gelitin said there were no offices above them. This guy is a liar.

Comment by James H. Fetzer on February 13, 2011 at 11:47pm
Check out "New Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11", when you have the chance. Your ideas are very interesting.
Comment by jane doe on February 13, 2011 at 11:31pm

Odd, that Scott Forbes came to U.S. from U.K. in 1997, which is the year the plans for 911 tower implosions revved up to high gear. Why is he still going on and on about this after 9 years. I think he was a plant. Lots of people were hired to tell they story the govt wanted the world to eat.

 

11 master satanists, occultists, masons, kabbalists & witches were ea in his/her assigned spots by Strategic Communication Laboratories, London (paid by neocons) on 911 01: Bush, Cheney, Tenet, Ann (GWB's witch aunt) Cappelletti, Bill Gates, Giuliani, Con di Rice, Schwarzenegger, Silverstein, Soros & Saddam Hussein (not dead hidden) for the MEGA ritual. John (GWBs witch cousin) Cappelletti's demolition company gutted & planted explosives in WTC for Silverstein to collect $7 billion insurance. After GWB was appointed Prez in 2000, repubs changed the stars in their logo to pentagrams. neopagans are both neoconservatives & neoliberals.

Comment by jane doe on February 13, 2011 at 11:21pm

I work in television graphics. I know that 911 was all prerecorded and I know everything else that showed up later was composited video. Even, a fool can see that all the planes in various composites are all different, some squat some, grey, some black. Some go in the direction of the smoke some against the direction of the smoke.

 

As long as you say "purported," I agree, but their were no planes. Time for you to look at Operation northwoods.

Northwoods/Mongoose v 911 illusion  Operation Able Danger

Incidents to establish a credible attack:

Northwoods - - - - - - - - -  -  911

start rumors radio - - - -start rumors tv

-fake-hijack planes - - fake-hijack planes

-radio broadcasts - - - - TV broadcast CGI plane

 (ie,Orson Welles- - - - Tell people what they were

 War of Worlds) - - - - - supposed to see (mass hypnosis attempt)

-blow up drone- - - - - - drone-1st tower strike

-mock funerals- - - - - - death hoaxes/mock funerals/morphed Vicsims/actors

Comment by jane doe on February 13, 2011 at 11:14pm

FYI, my friend is a very gifted spiritualist/psychic. She is not the 1st psychic to whom I have sought advice. We have been friends for 4 years. I find the information on the Internet and I tell her what I have learned. She then looks into it to tell me if it were true or not.

 

FYI, police use psychics to solve crimes. God sent her/my psychic into my life to help me and I am not going to look a gift in the mouth. God works in mysterious ways. Who are you to question why God leads me or anyone in a certain direction? Witch Ann looked into her scrying mirrors and learned 45 years ago that I was going to write a book about her evil family and has been trying to stop me ever since. That's another story. Right now, I want the evil govt behind 911 to be put in jail for the money they stole, for PUNKING the world w 911 and the wars they started.

 

Of course, he didn't see a plane because there was none.

Comment by jane doe on February 13, 2011 at 11:05pm

I listened to the radio show. I had already seen a youtube video with him years ago. would post it, but right now my msm windows are screwy. First of all, I worked in the towers in the 1980s. Security was controlled from the 1st floor on which you got on the elevator for your floor. You could only go to the floors on which you were work to work, no one meandered around to other floors unless for a reason, except to "get coffee," as he said. How would he know who was on what floor. It was impossible to get on a floor to which you were not assigned.

 

 I have also seen videos with other testimony. I will post them when my system is back to normal.

 

Since he was not in NYC in 1993, what he had to say was hearsay. I was in NYC in 1993 and I worked on the news report that day. The people recorded coming down from the towers had soot around their noses and mouths as one would expect from being in a smoke filled building. No one that was photographed on 911 looked the way those people looked in 1993. I will continue this tomorrow.

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