I give up.

[Shallel Octavia]

Really? Iran? Found guilty of 9/11 in a Manhattan Court? If this is the state of justice in this country I'm afraid I'm going to have to throw in the towel.

The US is FINISHED. Happy Holidaze.

Sorry Jim, your noble efforts and indefatigable Spirit will be duly noted. I appreciate you all, at least there are people

who still understand reality and scientific procedure. Blessings for the New Year. 

Shallel

Judge: Iran, Taliban, al Qaeda liable for 9/11

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57347506/judge-iran-taliban-al-...

People flee Lower Manhattan across the Brooklyn Bridge in New York after a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center Sept. 11, 2001. (AP Photo/Daniel Shanken)

(AP)  

NEW YORK - A federal judge has signed a default judgment finding Iran, the Taliban and al Qaeda liable in the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

Judge George Daniels in Manhattan signed the judgment Thursday, a week after hearing testimony in the 10-year-old case. The signed ruling, which he promised last week, came in a $100 billion lawsuit brought by family members of victims of the attacks. He directed a magistrate judge to preside over remaining issues, including fixing compensatory and punitive damages.

Daniels signed findings of fact saying the plaintiffs had established that the 2001 attacks were caused by the support the defendants provided to al Qaeda. The findings also said Iran continues to provide material support and resources to al Qaeda by providing a safe haven for al Qaeda leadership and rank-and-file al Qaeda members.

During last week's open-court hearing, family members of Sept. 11 victims sat through a four-hour presentation from attorneys who cited evidence supporting their claims that Iran actively assisted the hijackers of planes that crashed into the World Trade Center towers, at the Pentagon and into a field in Pennsylvania. Former members of the Sept. 11 Commission and three Iranian defectors also spoke.

It would be near impossible to collect any damages, especially from the Taliban or al Qaeda.

Iran has not commented on the ruling. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has repeatedly denied any Iranian connection in the Sept. 11 attacks or with al Qaeda. Saudi Arabia had been knocked out of the lawsuit, but lawyers filed papers on Thursday to reinstate Saudi Arabia as a defendant.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs did not immediately return telephone calls seeking comment.

[Shallel Octavia]

It's worse than that - it's the blind pulling teeth! 

Thanks for all your great contributions, Chuck, and enjoy your Christmas!

Best, Shallel

[Chuck Boldwyn]

I would like to see the evidence for the ruling

It has to be the blind leading the blind & scientifically illiterate...

[Shallel Octavia]

Will look forward too it. This travesty is indeed absurd! Either this frantic push to shore up the OCT will finally be their undoing, or I fear that we will be shut up by the many outrageous recent legislations. Soon the only website may be Janet Napolitano insisting that your neighbors are Taliban supporters, and you should due your duty as a Citizen and turn them in to the Stasi! In East Germany people were imprisoned for political jokes. How far are we from this? Maybe it's all a political joke.

Even though I feel like giving up, your example once again gives me no recourse than to continue to research and spread the truth. Thanks!

"Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex".

                                      - Frank Zappa

[James H. Fetzer]

The key evidence was that the alleged terrorists' passports were NOT STAMPED.  They PRESUPPOSED that they had cross the Iranian border and then used THE ABSENCE OF ANY PROOF as PROOF OF GUILT.  I don't have any Iranian passport stamps in my passport either.  The situation is completely absurd.  Completely absurd.

[James H. Fetzer]

Shallel, I did an interview on PressTV about this today.  When it's up, I will post a link.  You are absolutely right.