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Super, let's have it out. This will be a heck of debate on real deal feb. 6.  By the way, people who know the history of science relish this, this is how science always progresses, from wave vs. particle theory of light, to Einstein vs. Bohr, and on and on it goes.

I think Morgan has been using straw men and hyperbole, not science, and the point by point should eventually show this up.  

Morgan,

thanks for response, but I really think you are straw manning the argument here to make it seem less believable.  They knew the amount of concrete, fracture energy, number of nukes, energy per nuke, etc., and they could have fine tuned it quite well.  It is all engineering here, not science.  

In interest of correctness, the band was called Pilot.

I don't see a fit for nukes either. Obviously I agree with Greening and Morgan on this.

Welding material worshippers? That's rich!

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Nukes, I guess, were tailored in advance to neatly fit some of the WTC data, David-Copperfield style.  Nuclear explosions had with no detectable heat and therefore left millions of sheets of unburned paper, no blinding light visible, incredibly powerful kinetic energy/blast waves which thoughtfully stopped precisely at the boundaries of the WTC after turning steel and concrete to micron-sized powder, leaving no evidence but dust, leaving enough steel at ground level to convince the gullible that nothing unusual happened, etc.  No known/conventional-wisdom nuclear bombs operate this way, but that doesn't discourage nuke champions any more than evidence stops welding material worshipers from hugging thermite/thermate.  As far as I can tell, there is no evidence of nuclear fission/fusion heat, blinding light, knock-down nuclear blast waves or any other signature effect of nuclear explosions.  Maybe a little of the "mushroom cloud" look but not even that was a ringer.

As e.l.o. sang,

"Ho, ho, ho

It's magic you know

Never believe, it's not so

It's magic, you know

Never believe, it's not so

Shallel,

I'll concede on the momentum, I think maybe you are correct there are a brand of DEW that do not have momentum, the non-directional standing wave type.

I believe my calc. about the minimum power of 3000 MW is correct, and that is about Hoover Dam amount.  I am just putting that out there because I am skeptical a DEW could have that much power.

As for the first law of TD, I do believe I am correct a nuke could be designed so the energy was eaten up in fracturing the concrete and not necessarily raising the temperature; since this has been raised as an objection to nuke.  

These Greening MYTHS just do not cut the mustard. 

You are both speaking on things you do not understand, "DEW", as this farcical statement illustrates:

"If a DEW with high power had hit the towers, the momentum of the DEW would not be zero but would be a net in one direction and the ejecta would have been blown over in that direction."

A non-directional scaler interference of EM energy has no momentum.

You are also way off base with this comment:

"As for the heat, the energy of the nukes was eaten up by fracturing the concrete and vaporizing/hurling out the steel fragments.  By first law of thermodynamics, the heat put in by the nukes could have gone into two places: work (it did by fracturing the steel and concrete), and increase in internal energy (by raising the temperature).  But the designers made sure (1) the energy of each nuke got totally eaten by the work energy and none was left to increase the temp. (2) the shock wave did all the fracturing of the tower material and none was left to fracture the bathtub."

There is no way that Nukes could use up their thermal energy in a free-falling section of Tower Wall, there is NO way to calculate what size chunks would be falling, and match the thermal energy to unknown sized fractured pieces, nor could the nuke remain attached to the chunks as they are falling and dissolving. 

These large sections of curtain wall are seen falling as they dissolve into dust. The fact is that steel falling was somehow turned to ash in plain view with no incandescent temperatures. This is easily seen in the slow motion footage shown in the Judy Wood Interview:http://911scholars.ning.com/video/where-did-the-towers-go-dr-judy-w...

If the steel was fracture by a shock wave, it would not fall in macro sized chunks, it would fall as dust.

There is no evidence of the towers being prepped by thermite either. The lower floors were not emitting smoke or displaying any heat signature. 

I cannot say that I know were all this energy originated, it is a highly secret technology that is suppressed at all cost. I can however point out that you do not know either, and that nukes and thermite do not explain what happened. At all.

http://www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf   ( a background paper about energy transfer by Dr. Frank Greening

"Mini-nukes as causal agent are not much better for lack of signature characteristics of nuclear explosions at the WTC as well as failure to demonstrate that nukes can produced the dozens of anomalous effects Dr. Wood documents at the WTC. "

Nukes do demonstrate conservation of momentum better than DEW in each twin tower.  Watch how the debris is hurled upward and outward symmetrically around the towers, apparently from about 10 points equally spaced along the towers length.  I think one nuke per second was detonated in sequence down the towers.  The initial momentum was zero, and the final momentum of the ejecta was zero because each momentum vector had an equal but opposite one and +1 - 1 = 0 momentum after explosion.  This is characteristic of exposives detonated from a point source.  If a DEW with high power had hit the towers, the momentum of the DEW would not be zero but would be a net in one direction and the ejecta would have been blown over in that direction

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 Nuclear explosions produce temperatures in the millions of degrees, blinding light (literally), extremely powerful blast wave, etc., none of which were experienced or observed at the WTC.  Conventlonal explosives and nukes destroy by sudden release of energy and just two facts by themselves falsify such explosives: impossibly low seismic readings and an undamaged WTC bathtub (1 million+ tons did not crash into the bathtub) which kept the Hudson river from flooding downtown Manhattan.  "  

According to Frank Greening, reference above, the total fracture energy to pulverize the concrete into 60 micron dust average was 6,700 Joules/kg with 50,000,000 kg of concrete per tower (plus there was ten times this mass of steel).  That is a total fracture energy of 3.35 X 10 (10 power) Joules in 10 seconds for a required power to pulverize concrete of 3,350 megawatts.  That is about the power output of the Hoover Dam, I've been to the Hoover Dam power station, that is pretty awesome.  Could a DEW have gotten that much power from somewhere?  (and this doesn't count the 10 tens mass of steel).  

As for the heat, the energy of the nukes was eaten up by fracturing the concrete and vaporizing/hurling out the steel fragments.  By first law of thermodynamics, the heat put in by the nukes could have gone into two places: work (it did by fracturing the steel and concrete), and increase in internal energy (by raising the temperature).  But the designers made sure (1) the energy of each nuke got totally eaten by the work energy and none was left to increase the temp. (2) the shock wave did all the fracturing of the tower material and none was left to fracture the bathtub.

Of course, the towers were prepped like in Chuck Boldwyn's theory with thermite for 50 minutes so the nukes only had to destroy swiss cheesed out steel.  The little holes around the complex were also blown out by nukes.

Dr. Judy Wood has a DEW theory, according to Chuck.  By contrast, he has "original research" which is "most convincing" to "many other people."  Wow, quite an enviable situation for Chuck, although he could name his admirers to help us verify the last part of his claims.  Or maybe we should just cast all such assertions aside following Shakespeare's admonition: “...it will come to pass that every braggart will be found an ass."

As to content: of course thermite/thermate, a welding material and incendiary, as agent of destruction at the WTC is totally bogus http://nomoregames.net/2012/01/14/collapse-of-the-thermite-thesis/.   Mini-nukes as causal agent are not much better for lack of signature characteristics of nuclear explosions at the WTC as well as failure to demonstrate that nukes can produced the dozens of anomalous effects Dr. Wood documents at the WTC.  Nuclear explosions produce temperatures in the millions of degrees, blinding light (literally), extremely powerful blast wave, etc., none of which were experienced or observed at the WTC.  Conventlonal explosives and nukes destroy by sudden release of energy and just two facts by themselves falsify such explosives: impossibly low seismic readings and an undamaged WTC bathtub (1 million+ tons did not crash into the bathtub) which kept the Hudson river from flooding downtown Manhattan. 

"The dominant effects of a nuclear weapon (the blast and thermal radiation) are the same physical damage mechanisms as conventional explosives, but the energy produced by a nuclear explosive is millions of times more per gram and the temperatures reached are in the tens of megakelvins. Nuclear weapons are quite different from regular weapons because of the huge amount of explosive energy they can put out and the different kinds of effects they make, like high temperatures and nuclear radiation." --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_explosion

Also see pp. 121-2 in http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/ by Dr. Wood.

Thank you for the welcome, Chuck. 

Debunking Judy Wood's work?  How does that work?  It doesn't and cannot because Dr. Wood is not a theorist, she is an evidence-gatherer.  What evidence presented in "Where Did the Towers Go?" is false?  Please be specific.  Proof preferred for all propositions alleged to debunk Dr. Wood. 

For those interested, please visit my blog, nomoregames.net  While I'm at it, also go to   www.judywood.com and wheredidthetowersgo.com for the REAL DEAL and what happened at the WTC on September 11, 2001. 

More to come from yours truly.

--Best regards, Morgan