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WELCOME TO THE 9/11 SCHOLARS FORUM!
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Americans Are Hell-Bent On Tyranny
By Paul Craig Roberts
12-26-9
December 22, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- Obama's dwindling band of true believers has taken heart that their man has finally delivere…
thank. I just learned the IBE technique, and I can see that's probably the best way to "truth" if there is such an animal. If just more people, a high percentage, did that, we'd have a better, more democratic society. I am in fear that the USA at le…
That question has been on my mind, too, Thoth II. I like your posts, which display an active, critical intelligence.
CNN : "Abdulmutallab, 23, was charged in a federal criminal complaint Saturday with attempting to destroy the plane Friday on its final approach to Detroit Metropolitan Airport, and placing a destructive device on the aircraft, the Department of Jus…
" According to this version, Hasan must be viewed as a troubled and tormented individual who "snapped," breaking down psychologically under the stress of his awful predicament. Here is how Obama summed up this approach: “Even within the extraordinar…
"Expunge the one sentence in the National Security Act of 1947 that gives a president wide latitude to direct the CIA to perform "other such functions and duties related to intelligence." Make it crystal clear that the sense conveyed by that sentenc…
I see on my tivo listings for trutv that that episode "big brother" is going to be repeated Dec. 30 at 9 pm ET/PT
I can't believe I forgot to watch the show last night. I've heard the same story from Jesse before. "Creepy!" is the right word. But consider how encompassing is CIA control, given an illustration of this kind. Outrageous!
Last night on his show our friend Jesse Ventura related a story that was creepy. One month after becoming governor, the CIA summoned him into the bowels of the state capitol . Jesse asked them what this was all about and told them it was against CIA…
"At least, I would like to submit here the original reason why I thought it necessary to organize this Agency during my Administration, what I expected it to do and how it was to operate as an arm of the President.
I think it is fairly obvious that…
The Washington Post
December 22, 1963 - page A11
Harry Truman Writes:
Limit CIA Role
To Intelligence
By Harry S Truman
Copyright, 1963, by Harry S Truman
INDEPENDENCE, MO., Dec. 21 — I think it has become necessary to take another look at the pur…
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:07:04 +0200 [08:07:04 PM CST]
From: "Dimi Chakalov"
To: "James H Fetzer"
Subject: 9/11: Evaporation of steel
Dear Professor Fetzer:
Please see
http://tinyurl.com/steel-evaporation
Directly to the issue:
http://www.god-…
Thoth II, you are right-on! The only problem being that even the current version of the Senate bill provides a massive windfall to the insurance industry, even requiring those who can't afford health insurance to buy it! How dumb is that? My faith i…
American healthcare: shame , shame, shame
Ok, today was the straw that broke my back at least, I was talking to a 64 year old waitress as I had my breakfast and she said she had to work one more year to get medical care, and we agreed the American…
Deutsche Welle: straight talk.
I'm switching to Deutsche Welle news on my local cable channel. Here's why, within a couple minutes of listening , I heard a reporter say the following things without any embellishment:
" euphoria (over Barack Obama)…
WELCOME TO THE 9/11 SCHOLARS FORUM!
Welcome!
The purpose of this forum is to expose falsehoods and reveal truths about the events of 9/11.
As I see it, the primary areas of research intended to be the focus of this forum include these:
(A) General Overview and the Nature of Conspiracy Theories;
Recommended reading:
"Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK"
by James H. Fetzer;
"Was America Attacked by Muslim's on 9/11?
by David Ray Griffin; and,
"There is No Evidence Muslims Hijacked Planes on 9/11"
by Elias Davidsson
(B) What Happen to the WTC and especially the Twin Towers?
Recommended reading:
Visit the drjudywood.com web site and study her photographs;
"The 9/11 WTC Twin Towers Could Not Possibly Have Collapsed"
by Charles Boldwynn;
"WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?"
by C.B. Brooklyn
(B1) Was video fakery used to deceive the American public?
Recommended Reading:
Visit the killtown and Ace Baker web sites and study the videos;
"Mounting Evidence of Video Fakery on 9/11"
by James H. Fetzer (and follow its links)
"New Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11"
by James H. Fetzer (and follow its links)
(B2) Were Planes Even Used on 9/11?
Recommended Reading:
"Some Holes in the Plane Stories"
by Morgan Reynolds and Rick Rajter
"On Simulators, Video Fakery, and Planes/No Planes"
by James H. Fetzer
"Fetzer-Barrett-Legge Exchange"
by Jame H. Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, and Frank Legge
(C) What Happened at the Pentagon?
Recommended Reading:
"Norman Mineta and Richard Clarke Contradict the 9/11 Commission"
by Adam Lietke
"The Latest on the Pentagon"
by James Hanson
"What Didn't Happen at the Pentagon"
by James H. Fetzer
(D) Who Was Responsible for 9/11?
Recommended Reading:
"Was America Attacked by Muslim's on 9/11?
by David Ray Griffin; and,
"Could US Leaders Have Authorized 9/11 without Knowing the Details?"
by Elias Davidsson
"9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda"
by James H. Fetzer
(E) Misinformation and Disinformation
Recommended Reading:
"Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK"
by James H. Fetzer
"9/11 Conspiracy Theories"
by the Anti-Defamation League
"The Manipulation of the 9/11 Community"
by James H. Fetzer
There will be more, especially about (D) and (E). But these are some of the basics. that
every member of this forum should be familiar with. There is a lot of my stuff, not because
it is mine but because it deals with the complex and controversial aspects of 9/11, which
are the only ones worth discussion and debate. I do not think I am right about all of this,
by the way. I can learn from you by showing me where I'm wrong.
A word of appreciate to Michael Morrissey, who introduced us to ning.com. This is not
an anti-Morrissey forum but a 9/11 Truth forum. Michael's excess of zeal in anti-anti-
Semitism and unwillingness to study mathematical treatments of these issues created
an obstacle to the pursuit of 9/11 research. He was, in my view, committing several
elementary fallacies, including the ad hominem and the genetic fallacies.
Having spent 35 year teaching logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, I did my
best to oppose them, but Michael is a man of strong opinions and would not budge. I
therefore founded this forum as an alternative, where members are welcome to belong
to both. I should note that, in my view, the charge of anti-Semitism has become a club
to abuse those seeking the truth. We must undeerstand how it works.
As a fallible human being, I have no doubt that I will commit my own mistakes managing
and moderating this forum. I therefore encourage any of you who have comments,
suggestions, or criticism to contact me, either via the forum's own mechanisms for
communication or by sending me an email directly to my email address, which is jfetzer@d.umn.edu. I believe the 911aletheia.ning.com forum has already shown
what we can do!
Jim
Tags: conspiracies, disinformation, fakery, misinformation, pentagon, planes, planes/no, simulations, video, wtc
The purpose of this forum is to expose falsehoods and reveal truths about the events of 9/11.
As I see it, the primary areas of research intended to be the focus of this forum include these:
(A) General Overview and the Nature of Conspiracy Theories;
Recommended reading:
"Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK"
by James H. Fetzer;
"Was America Attacked by Muslim's on 9/11?
by David Ray Griffin; and,
"There is No Evidence Muslims Hijacked Planes on 9/11"
by Elias Davidsson
(B) What Happen to the WTC and especially the Twin Towers?
Recommended reading:
Visit the drjudywood.com web site and study her photographs;
"The 9/11 WTC Twin Towers Could Not Possibly Have Collapsed"
by Charles Boldwynn;
"WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?"
by C.B. Brooklyn
(B1) Was video fakery used to deceive the American public?
Recommended Reading:
Visit the killtown and Ace Baker web sites and study the videos;
"Mounting Evidence of Video Fakery on 9/11"
by James H. Fetzer (and follow its links)
"New Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11"
by James H. Fetzer (and follow its links)
(B2) Were Planes Even Used on 9/11?
Recommended Reading:
"Some Holes in the Plane Stories"
by Morgan Reynolds and Rick Rajter
"On Simulators, Video Fakery, and Planes/No Planes"
by James H. Fetzer
"Fetzer-Barrett-Legge Exchange"
by Jame H. Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, and Frank Legge
(C) What Happened at the Pentagon?
Recommended Reading:
"Norman Mineta and Richard Clarke Contradict the 9/11 Commission"
by Adam Lietke
"The Latest on the Pentagon"
by James Hanson
"What Didn't Happen at the Pentagon"
by James H. Fetzer
(D) Who Was Responsible for 9/11?
Recommended Reading:
"Was America Attacked by Muslim's on 9/11?
by David Ray Griffin; and,
"Could US Leaders Have Authorized 9/11 without Knowing the Details?"
by Elias Davidsson
"9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda"
by James H. Fetzer
(E) Misinformation and Disinformation
Recommended Reading:
"Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK"
by James H. Fetzer
"9/11 Conspiracy Theories"
by the Anti-Defamation League
"The Manipulation of the 9/11 Community"
by James H. Fetzer
There will be more, especially about (D) and (E). But these are some of the basics. that
every member of this forum should be familiar with. There is a lot of my stuff, not because
it is mine but because it deals with the complex and controversial aspects of 9/11, which
are the only ones worth discussion and debate. I do not think I am right about all of this,
by the way. I can learn from you by showing me where I'm wrong.
A word of appreciate to Michael Morrissey, who introduced us to ning.com. This is not
an anti-Morrissey forum but a 9/11 Truth forum. Michael's excess of zeal in anti-anti-
Semitism and unwillingness to study mathematical treatments of these issues created
an obstacle to the pursuit of 9/11 research. He was, in my view, committing several
elementary fallacies, including the ad hominem and the genetic fallacies.
Having spent 35 year teaching logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, I did my
best to oppose them, but Michael is a man of strong opinions and would not budge. I
therefore founded this forum as an alternative, where members are welcome to belong
to both. I should note that, in my view, the charge of anti-Semitism has become a club
to abuse those seeking the truth. We must undeerstand how it works.
As a fallible human being, I have no doubt that I will commit my own mistakes managing
and moderating this forum. I therefore encourage any of you who have comments,
suggestions, or criticism to contact me, either via the forum's own mechanisms for
communication or by sending me an email directly to my email address, which is jfetzer@d.umn.edu. I believe the 911aletheia.ning.com forum has already shown
what we can do!
Jim
Tags: conspiracies, disinformation, fakery, misinformation, pentagon, planes, planes/no, simulations, video, wtc
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"Americans Are Hell-Bent On Tyranny" by Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.rense.com/general88/amrs.htm
Americans Are Hell-Bent On Tyranny
By Paul Craig Roberts
12-26-9
December 22, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- Obama's dwindling band of true believers has taken heart that their man has finally delivered on one of his many promises--the closing of the Guantanamo prison. But the prison is not being closed. It is being moved to Illinois, if the Republicans permit.
In truth, Obama has handed his su… Continue
Americans Are Hell-Bent On Tyranny
By Paul Craig Roberts
12-26-9
December 22, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- Obama's dwindling band of true believers has taken heart that their man has finally delivered on one of his many promises--the closing of the Guantanamo prison. But the prison is not being closed. It is being moved to Illinois, if the Republicans permit.
In truth, Obama has handed his su… Continue
Posted on December 27, 2009 at 3:10pm —
NIDAL MALIK HASAN OF VIRGINIA TECH, BETHESDA, AND FORT HOOD: A MAJOR PATSY IN A DRILL GONE LIVE?
NIDAL MALIK HASAN OF VIRGINIA TECH, BETHESDA, AND FORT HOOD: A MAJOR PATSY IN A DRILL GONE LIVE?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6409
By Webster G. Tarpley
14 November 2009
In the wake of the massacre at Fort Hood Texas , two principal theories have emerged to explain the conduct of the accused shooter, identified by the U.S. Army as Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist of Jordanian-Palestinian ancestry.… Continue
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6409
By Webster G. Tarpley
14 November 2009
In the wake of the massacre at Fort Hood Texas , two principal theories have emerged to explain the conduct of the accused shooter, identified by the U.S. Army as Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist of Jordanian-Palestinian ancestry.… Continue
Posted on December 25, 2009 at 4:26pm — 4 Comments
Former Army SPC April Gallop Supports Lear Theory of Plane Fly-Over of Pentagon
Mike Sparks reports: Former Army SPC Gallop, now off active duty in her law suit supports Lear Theory of Plane Fly-Over of Pentagon:
EXCERPT:
"If Flight 77, or a substitute, did swoop low over the building, to create the false impression of a suicide attack, it was then flown away by its pilot, or remote control"
Gallop also confirmst: NO AIRPLANE struck Pentagon.
EXCERPT:
"33. At the Pentagon, the plaintiff was at her desk, with her baby, in her office on the first floor, when large explos… Continue
EXCERPT:
"If Flight 77, or a substitute, did swoop low over the building, to create the false impression of a suicide attack, it was then flown away by its pilot, or remote control"
Gallop also confirmst: NO AIRPLANE struck Pentagon.
EXCERPT:
"33. At the Pentagon, the plaintiff was at her desk, with her baby, in her office on the first floor, when large explos… Continue
Posted on December 25, 2009 at 3:30pm —
"Break the CIA in Two" by Ray McGovern
http://original.antiwar.com/mcgovern/2009/12/22/break-the-cia-in-two/
Break the CIA in Two
by Ray McGovern, December 23, 2009
After the CIA-led fiasco at the Bay of Pigs in April 1961, President John Kennedy was quoted as saying he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds." I can understand his anger, but a thousand is probably too many.
Better is a Solomon solution; di… Continue
Break the CIA in Two
by Ray McGovern, December 23, 2009
After the CIA-led fiasco at the Bay of Pigs in April 1961, President John Kennedy was quoted as saying he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds." I can understand his anger, but a thousand is probably too many.
Better is a Solomon solution; di… Continue
Posted on December 24, 2009 at 8:25pm — 1 Comment
HST wanted to reign in the CIA -- one month after the assassination of JFK!
The Washington Post
December 22, 1963 - page A11
Harry Truman Writes:
Limit CIA Role
To Intelligence
By Harry S Truman
Copyright, 1963, by Harry S Truman
INDEPENDENCE, MO., Dec. 21 — I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency—CIA. At least, I would like to submit here the original reason why I thought it necessary to organize this Agency during my Administration, what I expected it to do and how it was to operate as an… Continue
December 22, 1963 - page A11
Harry Truman Writes:
Limit CIA Role
To Intelligence
By Harry S Truman
Copyright, 1963, by Harry S Truman
INDEPENDENCE, MO., Dec. 21 — I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency—CIA. At least, I would like to submit here the original reason why I thought it necessary to organize this Agency during my Administration, what I expected it to do and how it was to operate as an… Continue
Posted on December 22, 2009 at 11:00pm — 4 Comments
Comment Wall (19 comments)
- At 5:24pm on October 16, 2009,
Brian Good said… - An interesting aspect of the ScrewLooseChange forum is that people can post under any name they want--including the exact same name used by others. Spamming the threads with disinfo posts made under other people's names is considered very clever there.
- At 4:42pm on October 16, 2009,
Brian Good said…
- How droll! Kevin thinks everybody who resents him playing "Kooky Truther" in the media is me. Willie Rodriguez thought everybody who was wise to his transparent lies was me.
I've noticed that Kevin's afraid to write on his own blogs, and that No Lies Radio no longer promotes his shows on the local googlegroup or at OpEd news. Poor Kevin, who claimed he was the only real man at 911blogger, whimpering about comments.
If Kevin needs to write therapeutic fiction about me, can't he at least make it interesting? Pathetic!
- At 10:30am on July 7, 2009,
sandy rose said… - hi Jim, yes, recently my posts have sailed thru without problem.
i haven't been having much time on the group lately i've been
digging for some info.....(will share a couple things with you soon,
still waiting for another clue or two.. might be a dead end..)
not sure what court you are referring to, you mean the
international criminal one? i might have written to them years ago,
at a time when wubba bash was right down the road from me in
ohio! i even might have mentioned that i thought 'they' were in
on 9/11. it took them almost a year to write me back! better
late than never, right? no word since then.
cynthia mckinney was last i heard headed back to the states.
so that was good to hear.
i haven't heard yet if they let all of those people go....
when does the archive of Rosalee on the Real Deal get posted?
i checked this morning and don't see it. like a fool i missed it. dang.
keep up the good work, this group is neato.
- At 3:22pm on July 6, 2009,
Whathappened Tothewtc said… - do i have to identify myself or not
i could say "i'm judy wood" and that would be a good enough reason?
ok then i'm judy wood
- At 5:00pm on June 24, 2009,
sandy rose said…
- so as i was e-ing you and the other one i became
unable to connect AT ALL. just to let you know. hope
you got to see that thing. back later.
- At 8:40am on June 24, 2009,
sandy rose said…
- somebody's got some splainin ta do. i'm gonna e mail
you in private later, i'm wondering about someone's occupation now.
- At 8:37am on June 24, 2009,
sandy rose said…
- Dean Lawrence Velvel. (just an experiment!)
this is only a test again.
- At 8:36am on June 24, 2009,
sandy rose said…
- okay, that one soared right thru. what up? i'm not
delusional, well, no more than half way anyway, but
certain stuff i say is going nowhere. repeatedly. hhmm.
well, when 'they' mess with ya i guess yer onto somethin.
- At 8:33am on June 24, 2009,
sandy rose said…
- test, hi Jim, this is only a test. did you just get a
message from me? the box came up that said message
sent but i don't see any record of it. now i know i'm
generally reasonably paranoid, aren't we all, but this
is getting weird. and it's not my drinking day, either!
please respond, the messages that aren't going thru
are about a certain deeen. there's something fishy
going on here for real. i can see the messages i've
sent to rosalee, ted, etc. but not the one i sent you.
i'm kinda taking it personally, i know it's not you.
now i'm gonna see if this goes thru. you're not blocking
my messages, cause that would splain it? i don't
think that you would and i believe you're not moderating,
but something here is not right. and i'm on the good puter!
i'm starting to sound like a psychopath, but i'm serious!
- At 6:50am on June 17, 2009,
sandy rose said…
- hi Jim, i guess he started a new new new group, 9/11 aletheia. i didn't hear
about a specific crash of the old new one, tho i know he sounded headed
in that direction. i got an invite to the new new new one but now i am not
sure, i feel odd about it.
i'm glad to see you posted some of your stuff from the old new one, i
think i saw it before and didn't object to what you said at all, but i wanna
look it over again.
anyhoo, glad you started this new group, seems to be growing steadily
already, glad to see Matt here!
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