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More bizarre attacks from the Judy Wood crowd . . .

Date:  Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:37:11 -0900 [04:37:11 PM CST]
From:  "Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd" <ralph@jusbelli.com>
To:  jfetzer@d.umn.edu
Subject:  Re: URGENT: Guests on My Show today - subjects - 911 and Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR) [cold fusion (sic)]
We will see what Gerst has to say.
ralph
On Mar 6, 2011, at 1:16 PM, jfetzer@d.umn.edu wrote:

Ralph,

This is rubbish.  I have NEVER attacked Judy.  This is getting more
and more serious.  You can't just pull this out your fanny!  I have
sent you repeated explanations in response to your repeated emails,
which you have surely received.  I will send them again.  I demand
that you cease these unfounded claims about me, which are competely
false and without merit.  I have in fact ALWAYS been supportive of
Judy Wood.  You would certainly be unable to defend these claims in
a lawsuit, since they are false.  You will be hearing more from me
about this.

Jim

Quoting "Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd" <ralph@jusbelli.com>:

Guests today - Russell Gerst (hr 1) and Dr. Judy Wood (hr 2)
For the first hour on the Ralph Winterrowd at republicbroadcasting.org -- 5-7 PM CST --my guest will be Russell Gerst. I attempted to get Russell for both hours but he had a scheduling conflict, therefore no questions will taken as I want to get as much information out as possible within this one hour.  I plan on having him back soon so will have two hours and can field calls in the second hour.
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Hour 1 - 5-6 PM CST -- Russell Gerst.
The subject will as follows which I received from Russell, to wit:

I was an associate member (whatever their classification of non-academic
member) until 2008 when Jim Fetzer began attacking Dr. Wood for her
comparisons of the Ground Zero phenomena and the Hutchison Effect.  Began
reading about the entire LENR ("Cold Fusion") cover-up after watching the
video "Heavy Watergate" which pointed the finger squarely at Dr. Steven E.
Jones as a major player in the downfall of Drs. Pons and Fleischmann.  From
that seminal work, the tentacles of Cal Tech, Jones, and the American
Physcial Society were squarely in evidence.

Russ Gerst is a 1988 cum laude graduate of Coe College, with degrees in
Accounting and Business Administration and a minor in mathematics.  His
background as an auditor and financial analyst with emphasis in database
have served to enhance his understanding of mathematics, particularly
Calculus which is the primary driver for his understanding of the fraud that
was the NIST NCSTAR reports.  Has developed a simple mathematical test that
he has given to numerous high school physics students that fully exposes how
simple the mathematics at Ground Zero are.

Cold fusion video that now 20 years after Drs Pons and Fleischmann careers where destroyed it is now valid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyNn_Z6wCIk

Another video on LENR of currently soon (hopefully) to be available free energy.

http://pesn.com/2011/02/28/9501774_Future_Impact_of_Rossis_Cold_Fus...

Great site to get information based upon evidence - hosted by Andrew Johnson of the UK.
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&...

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Hour 2 - 6-7 PM CST - Dr. Judy Wood.  Probably no questions if only one hour - need one to get the evidence out and then take questions.

Please note that the Amazon "paperback"  book on a Google is a ruse.  This is left over from a dilatory publisher that never happened. That book does NOT exist, but the REAL one that is self-published by Dr. Wood is available being  hard bound and of the highest quality of any text book does exist at www.wheredidthetowersgo.com.

Dr. Judy Wood's book is destined to be one of the most important books of this century and probably the most important book of the century.  It is amazing to me that the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) admits that their Final Report DOES not investigage the "collapse" of the WTC but only is a "probable [hypothetical] collapse sequence."  And even more amazing is that no one has disclosed this, instead in the "911" "truth" blogs/forums wherein all you see is the merry-go-round text with people changing horses so many times that the Truth compass is non-existent.

Dr. Wood's Book is the ONLY forensic investigation with comprehensive empirical evidence of the destruction of the WTC, i.e., "the new investigation” that everyone keeps repeating and asking for.

Read Dr. Wood's book and you can take all of the Thermite, nano-thermite, superduper Ninja car-hopping Thermite (up to ½ miles from WTC creating toasted cars), the "appearance" of controlled demolitions, explosives, nukes, mini-nukes, etc. and flush them as they are all beyond junk science.  Strictly PsyOps by the unknown Powers for the masses.

WELL, the Good News is that "Where Did The Towers Go Book" is available for all of those that have been chanting from the roof tops and in other forums that  "We need a new investigation", lest we not forget the AE911 Truth 1,400 + Engineers and Architects Pied Piper lead by Richard Gage mantra of "We need a new investigation" is available at www.wheredidthetowersgo.com.   Your wish has been fulfilled Gage, so will the mantra of "We need a new investigation" cease?  Gage’s junk science is so easily exposed with his continual repetition concerning Bldg 7 is the “appearance of a controlled demolition.”  I grant Gage that presumption but wherein is the “supporting evidence” of just two prongs must exist (there are more).

Prong one.  If Gage’s repetitious presumptions are true, then the  appearance of a “controlled demolition” MUST be accompanied by audio sounds of a very large intensity.  There is more that one live video where interviews/or live videos are being taken of Bldg 7 in the background and you CAN”T hear the audio in the video of Bldg 7 but you can still hear the people’s voices.  NEGATIVE RESULT!

Prong two.  If Gage’s repetitious presumptions are true, then the 230,000 tons of material (steel, iron, etc.) of the appearance of a “controlled demolition” absolutely will create large Seismic Signals and be therein recorded on the seismic recorders to provide empirical evidence.  The signals recorded were of the volume of a jack hammer.  NEGATIVE!

Conclusion:  Prong one and Prong two that must both be TRUE are both are in the negative (false).  Therein Gage’s presumptions are exposed conclusively as nothing more than junk science at best and probably more accurately defined as another PsyOps operation.

    Now that the "what" and "how" has been established of the WTC therefore those that promulgate and espouse their who dunnit theories from the box-cutters folks, Muslims, Israelis, our coup d'etat government, our military, etc. are now armed with the empirical evidence to pursue the "who" had the Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) technology to accomplish the WTC -- 9/11 destruction.  Will you act now?

Step 1 -- you can send your Congressmen in D.C. the book (the empirical evidence ("what" and "how") that was mandated by Congress for NIST to provide to them, but didn't), so now there isn't any plausible deniability excuse for Congress to NOT ACT.  Wouldn't Congress want to know who did the destruction of the WTC?

Step 2 -- you can now demand since the empirical evidence exists of the "how" and "what" has been accomplished to pursue post haste the "who" dunnit.  Congress (probably only by sending a certified delivery prepaid book to your specific Representative and Senator) should be hounded unrelentingly to issue subpoenas and have an "open" hearing so that the "who" had the DEW technology to accomplish 9/11 destruction is disclosed.  That Answer is contained within two  companies, whose specialties are to know everyone in the world that has this technology (Tesla's), wherein the American people can finally determine the "who" dunnit folks from those that had the technology.  These two companies are, to wit:

    a.    Applied Research Associates

    b.    Science Applications International Corp.

Lets get on board and get this done as too much time has been wasted to date with all of the PsyOps, Pied Pipers into the abyss of hell and obfuscations.  Get over it -- free energy is here and technologies of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR) [cold fusion (sic)] including "Tesla's" technology is here and validated.

Lets give all of the Congressmen that proffer ipse dixit pontifications ad nauseam something constructive to do and see how deep their pockets are tied to one of the most heinous crimes in America and not forgetting the illusions of safety of the Patriot Act legislation, war on Terror, TSA's fondling people including children that would put a normal person in jail, etc. to make it safe for us, i.e., from who?

"Truth is not afraid of scrutiny!"  Are you afraid to act?

Samuel Adams stated it quite succinctly:

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”

Ralph




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Comment by James H. Fetzer on March 7, 2011 at 10:22am
Date:  Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:54:33 -0600 [08:54:33 AM CST]
From:  jfetzer@d.umn.edu
To:  "Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd" <ralph@jusbelli.com>
Cc:  lisajudy@nctv.com, econrn@suddenlink.net, Jsleaphart@cs.com, eric@oliveropenpress.com, jfetzer@d.umn.edu
Subject:  Re: Jim Fetzer it seems is questioning My Show today.
Ralph,

If you consider attributing the views of Phil Jayhan and Larry McWilliams
to me and pretending that I was not simply explaining their views but was
offering my own to be responsible journalism, you too belong in the toilet!

Judy first spoke about DEWs from space on 11 November 2006, when I inter-
viewed her for the first time.  It is the most infamous interview in the
history of the 9/11 movement.  So she is going to be pilloried for lying.

Tapes of that show are all over the place.  I have had to deal with it
even during a recent attack from Kevin Ryan.  (Try "Wikipedia as a 9/11
Disinformation Op" and "The Misadventures of Kevin Ryan", for example.)

I have no doubt that Judy is going to be ridiculed in new YouTubes that
juxtapose her denial on your show with her affirmation on mine.  This
is going to be a disaster for Judy's reputation that will be permanent.

I could care less who you feature on your show.  I was promoting Judy's
work when you were still in diapers.  To feature a mediocrity like Gerst
to attack me when I am known to everyone for defending Judy was obscene!

Did I not even write to tell you that my Ph.D. is in the history and the
philosophy of science? that I had featured Judy some 15 times on my shows?
that I gave her 3 hours to speak in Madison and also published her work?

You really need to get a grip, because your program last night was a train
wreck.  For Judy to claim Steve Jones had made up the "space beams" claim
to discredit her was absurd.  She is doing a great job of that by herself.

You are an ignorant man who ignores truth and an irresponsible journalist.
I still like her work, but as a human being she is a lost soul.  I suspect
that she will lose about 3/4 of her potential market because of your show.

Jim

Quoting "Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd" <ralph@jusbelli.com>:

I explained his [the toilets] theory quite well I thought.  Us ole farm boys can smell a
flim-flam man a mile off.  For even a second to give such a preposterous story any
standing destroys your credibility.

So if you have Dr. Wood's book hopefully and presumably -- or at sometime in the future,
what horse are you climbing onto to cross the Rubicon?
"Support, fan, doubt, etc. are PsyOps and Perception Management terms which have no
meaning as it is third party plausible deniability.  I read legal briefs and some of the
attorneys are masters at morphing, recasting and twin-speak.
If you have a valid point based on empirical evidence, I would like to see it.  If you
have a report with you name or someone who claims to have the expertise to create such a
report, I would like to see it.  I follow truth.  Remembering "law is a principle and
facts are real" which has application by replacing law with physics.

As to Gage, I thought I presented a very simple debunking of his "appearance of a
controlled demolition" that would have been clothed within Occam's Razor parameters.

So is Gage correct or not - where do you stand? Is that a Yes or a No?

Is Dr. Wood's Book a Yes or No?

Are you going after Congress by giving them the empirical evidence plus the the names of
two companies that know who had the technology to accomplish 911 to find out who
"dunnit"?  Yes or No?

Tis time to get out in open with a positive stand or remain where you are by stirring
the pot with obfuscation techniques  and/or PsyOps tactics.

Ralph

On Mar 6, 2011, at 6:43 PM, jfetzer@d.umn.edu wrote:
Ralph,

You were played for a sap.  That was not my views I was talking about
but those of Phil Jayhan.  He came up on some show and I hesitated to
explain his theory, because it is so odd, but I did and then added it
wasn't my theory but his.  Judy and her buddies edited it cleverly to
take you (and others, too) for a ride.  There was a lot more trash on
your show, but you have no knowledge of the history and were conned.

Why don't you ask Judy for the whole tape from which it was taken?

Jim

Quoting "Kevin Barrett" <kbarrett@merr.com>:
With a name like Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd, no wonder you put words  together like a
character from Alice in Wonderland.

Enjoy your obtuse plausibility deniability cigar-free toilet games,  and please take
me off your list!

Kevin

On Mar 6, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Ralph Kermit Winterrowd 2nd wrote:
Fetzer was referring to a claim with obtuse plausibility deniability  on toilets -
you bet.  I prefer my take on such a claim.  I  understand the obtuse plausibility
game, sorry, no cigar.
Kevin Barrett
http://www.truthjihad.com
Author, Questioning the War on Terror: A Primer for Obama Voters:
http://www.questioningthewaronterror.com
Comment by Thoth II on March 7, 2011 at 10:10am

"Read Dr. Wood's book and you can take all of the Thermite, nano-thermite, superduper Ninja car-hopping Thermite (up to ½ miles from WTC creating toasted cars), the "appearance" of controlled demolitions, explosives, nukes, mini-nukes, etc. and flush them as they are all beyond junk science.  Strictly PsyOps by the unknown Powers for the masses."

 

This is hyperbole, and simply not true, for example, far from being "beyond junk science", I think the mini nuke H nicely explains all the evidence .  

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