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Exponential Growth on a Finite Planet ~ Your Thoughts?

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is ourinability to understand the exponential function." - Prof. Al Bartlett…Continue

Started Jan 1, 2017

Prosecuting the Criminals and Obtaining Justice - Your Thoughts?
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Laurence and I have been discussing how to hold accountable the criminals involved in staging the 9/11 events. Our discussion is below. We would like to hear any of your input on how best to move…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by HenryMassingale May 4, 2015.


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Doomsday by 2021? by Sam Carena

http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2018/11/doomsday-by-2021.htmlThe Doomsday Clock, by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, constitutes a potent symbol of the danger we're in. When taking the 'minutes to midnight' from…See More
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Shallel Octavia replied to HenryMassingale's discussion WTC Building: 9/11
"I saw the Palestinians celebrating footage live on CNN on 9/11/01. I wanted to kill that ululating Palestinian woman. The CIA news can really play on our…"
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Is The Evidence of Global Warming Too Scary For Humans To Cope With? by Paul Craig Roberts

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/11/02/is-the-evidence-of-global-warming-too-scary-for-humans-to-cope-with/Is The Evidence of Global Warming Too Scary For Humans To Cope With?I appreciate the numerous emails thanking me for providing an understandable explanation of the global warming scenario. The book, Unprecedented Crime, about which I reported, caused me to…See More
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Shallel Octavia replied to HenryMassingale's discussion WTC Building: 9/11
"I am not very well studied in the Religions and Laws of Israel, nor do I have any respect for the Abrahamic Religions. I am an engineer, and a Gnostic, so I have lots of physics background, and as a side interest some knowledge of the Bible and the…"
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Shallel Octavia replied to HenryMassingale's discussion WTC Building: 9/11
"Great info and pics, Henry, Thank-you! BTW, the Palestinians celebrating footage was not from 9/11.. More lies from the MSM! The Israeli Mossad agents were celebrating though!"
Nov 4
Shallel Octavia replied to HenryMassingale's discussion WTC Building: 9/11
"We still have reports of explosions and fire (from Willie Rodriguez and firefighters) in the North Tower basement and lobby before the alleged impact of FL 11. "
Nov 4
Shallel Octavia replied to HenryMassingale's discussion WTC Was on Fire Before The Jet Hit The Building: 9/11
"Thanks Henry, Looking forward to seeing your images. Great idea to look at the video scans in black and white.  I haven't seen any reports of the North Tower falling first. I would also be interested in the source of that…"
Nov 4
Shallel Octavia replied to HenryMassingale's discussion WTC Was on Fire Before The Jet Hit The Building: 9/11
"The Fairbanks Shot was of the South Tower, with the North Tower burning in the background. This is common knowledge; there are only two shots of the North Tower "getting its hole". The Naudet video, here:…"
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"The Fairbanks shot was of the South Tower with the smoke from the North Tower in the background..."
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Is The Evidence of Global Warming Too Scary For Humans To Cope With? by Paul Craig Roberts


Is The Evidence of Global Warming Too Scary For Humans To Cope With?

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At 5:45pm on September 17, 2017, David Hawaii said…

Which 767?

At 3:32pm on June 27, 2015, HenryMassingale said…

your welcome

At 2:45pm on February 11, 2014, Laurence Smith said…

P.S. I don't hold much hope for trying to force the media to own up to either their role in covering up for the govt and/or to aid in not exposing their seeming purposeful incompetence. Many of them would fear retribution, assassination, or loss of their jobs. I think activists just need to go directly at the cabal members. We need many Andrew Breitbart types who will draw media attention while we start the wheels in motion in the courts. Once there are efforts being made to draw the cabal members into a criminal investigation the media won't be able to totally ignore it.   

At 2:32pm on February 11, 2014, Laurence Smith said…

Yes Shallel, starting a discussion thread related to initiating through some means a criminal investigation into the activities of the major players in our govt, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bush, Myers, et al during 9/11 might prove fruitfull, especially if it attracts any lawyers or legal organization(s). I would go so far as to say that the major players in the cabal behind 9/11 should be held accountable in a forum similiar to the Nuremburg trials. Given that 3 thousand American citizens lives were lost in addition to our soldiers who lost their lives and/or were injured in the phony Iraq war, plus the number of Iraq civilian lives that were lost their human atrocities cannot be over-stated. These American traitors should not allowed to die with their inflated accomplishments intact. They instead should be martyrs for any future govt cabal that might wish to do the same against the American people.        

At 7:39pm on February 10, 2014, Laurence Smith said…

P.S. S. I was surprised by your first name and thought you were a woman until I happened to see your profile picture and state of residence. Your second question that I missed on my previous response was how do we get the message out to the masses about what our govt has done in our name and not to be gullible reagrding everything that is told to us when it at least appears questionable. (1). Using the social media of course helps. (2). Pointing people via social media and other forms to shows and discussions regarding 9/11, JFK, etc.

I think there is already a large enough contingent of American people who are sure that 9/11 was an event with our government's involvement. We just need to take the next step and file charges against those who collusively conspired in 9/11. I'm guessing that we need lawyers willing to work pro-bono to affect charges being filed.         

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At 7:15pm on February 10, 2014, Laurence Smith said…

Hi Shallel, I just finished watching the series of videos, 'The great American Psy-opera' the link of which you graciously provided.  My observations: Given that even the experts among the so-called 9/11 truthers cannot conclusively agree on various aspects of the bombings of the World Trade Center buildings we should not wile away years and years attempting to precisely conclude what actually took place, as there is one thing that we can all agree on, and that being, there was govt collusion taking many forms. Including, but not limited to: psychological mind control, purposeful incompetence, deception, outright lies told to us by C. Rice and George Bush who told the American people on live TV that they had no previous idea that terrorists might use planes to ram into buildings despite the fact that there were just such exercises going on during the 9/11 bombings.

Americans need to take various forms of action to bring the govt criminals responsible for what happened on 9/11 to justice. We need not waste 50 years like in the JFK assassination to continue to prove a conspiracy existed via a criminal cabal of high ranking govt criminals. I don't think we need yet another 9/11 investigation that would only wind up floundering about. We need a criminal investigation of the participants who have some serious explaning to do regarding their actions on 9/11 and statements made by them that are documented. This includes; G.Bush, D. Cheney, P. Wolowitz, C. Rice, D. Rumsfeld,  and Joint military Chief of Staff General Myers, for starters.  Attempting to corral the secondary players at the same time would be an arduous task that would only muddle the investigation. We would let the major players cough up the names of those who aided wittingly or unwittingly. There is certainly enough prima facie evidence to indict the above mentioned participants either through a preliminary criminal hearing or evidentiary material presented to a grand jury. We cannot afford to let the cabal brain trust behind the 9/11 bombings simply die off with no closure for the American people, as this would provide future govt cabals with a strategy of simply outlasting us before they die.

Perhaps,  one way of taking action would be to get a group of like minded lawyers to file an Amicus brief to force a criminal trial. We would need to contact credible lawyers to explore what avenues to pursue.


                          { Recalling the 2 questions that you posed} 

Yes, I agree with your comparing our current govt to fascism. There is no longer any real pure political "ism. I think we can descbribe our current govt as politcally mirroring  Fascism, while our economical policies are Socialism driven. and our moral values as ultra liberalism, e.g., same sex marriage, pro-abortion, etc. 

I think your other question was regarding the media, if not I'll check on it again and respond. The media has indeed become the 4th branch of our govt. Although, it certainly was not intended to be.  Corporations that own the major media stations have invested interests in the same areas as our govt. For example, General Electric which owns NBC also is involved in producing materials that are used in war efforts. It is sure strange how the media jumped on the bandwagon of the anti- Vietnam war protestors but are now remarkably silent when it comes to challenging the actions of the highest levels of our govt on 9/11. The sound of silence by the media is deafening.

P.S. It is encouraging to see a woman involved in something like this and of the mindset that you are, as women now have the voting numbers to tilt an election in one direction or another.  Hopefully, more women will become involved.   








At 7:28am on July 20, 2013, Nancy Lewis said…

Ha, ha, the photo was from LAST summer...Suzie (my sister) and I were supposed to be there now, but she's fighting cancer...so, we cancelled this summer's trip.

At 8:52am on August 2, 2012, sandy rose said…

hi Shallel, 

     i am wondering now about friends.  what are they really?

      who the fuck nose.  sometimes ya think ya can but ya can't.

      yeah, that qwote you made lately as to the thiing where ya can't

 trust anyone anytime ever.  could you bring  that up again for us now, couldja coudlja?

At 11:26pm on January 13, 2012, Morgan Reynolds said…

Nor me!  Not at all.  More to come.  Thanks for the welcome.



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